Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable
Sheesh. I'd rather just assume they developed their own naming culture because they in fact do have their own American subculture, which means more to them as a context than dominant white culture. It doesn't have to be characterized as a response to white oppression. (Even if it does seem to sometimes be vaguely like a threatening middle finger to the dominant white culture, resulting in some white people feeling they need to put it down.) Shall we also say that poor whites developed their naming culture as a response to poverty or lack of "proper" liberal education? Is Heavynleigh's mother just flipping the bird at someone? or maybe she really thinks it's a great name! It seems patronizing to me to say African-American naming culture is just a reaction to oppression ... as if nothing about African American culture is just authentically culture, and what they do is all ultimately caused by white racism. I think it is authentically just culture, and there is actually nothing wrong with it that needs to be justified by invoking reaction to racism ... and I think it can be so without minimizing the real impacts of oppression, either. Feel free to tell me why you think I am wrong, anybody, I would like to understand why if you think I am.- mirfak

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Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  Perrine  ·  7/16/2017, 4:22 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  Anneza  ·  7/17/2017, 12:36 PM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  peonini  ·  7/17/2017, 12:10 PM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  RDNZL  ·  7/17/2017, 2:14 PM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  Jasmine  ·  7/16/2017, 6:15 PM
Rumi  ·  Solveig  ·  7/16/2017, 12:22 PM
We did  ·  Rachel Shaina  ·  7/16/2017, 11:03 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  basilisk  ·  7/16/2017, 10:29 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  Perrine  ·  7/16/2017, 10:36 AM
The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  BlackOpinion  ·  7/16/2017, 8:34 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Petra  ·  7/17/2017, 6:10 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Ismene  ·  7/17/2017, 9:26 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 6:24 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Katie  ·  7/16/2017, 9:14 AM
ditto (m)  ·  RoxStar  ·  7/16/2017, 12:54 PM
Re: ditto (m)  ·  Fionnghuala  ·  7/16/2017, 9:58 PM
what's disrespectful ...  ·  RoxStar  ·  7/17/2017, 8:05 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Danno  ·  7/16/2017, 10:59 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  queenv  ·  7/16/2017, 9:23 AM
I absolutely agree with you.  ·  Aine  ·  7/18/2017, 3:05 PM
Re: I absolutely agree with you.  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/18/2017, 5:32 PM
Re: I absolutely agree with you.  ·  Aine  ·  7/18/2017, 9:06 PM
Re: I absolutely agree with you.  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/18/2017, 9:55 PM
Re: I absolutely agree with you.  ·  Aine  ·  7/18/2017, 10:48 PM
Re: I absolutely agree with you.  ·  Aine  ·  7/18/2017, 10:53 PM
But...  ·  peonini  ·  7/17/2017, 12:15 PM
Re: But...  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 12:47 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  mirfak  ·  7/16/2017, 3:06 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  queenv  ·  7/16/2017, 3:28 PM
Also...  ·  peonini  ·  7/17/2017, 12:23 PM
Re: Also...  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 12:51 PM
Re: Also...  ·  Opal Petunia  ·  7/17/2017, 4:42 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Ismene  ·  7/16/2017, 8:32 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 4:51 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Katie  ·  7/17/2017, 8:03 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 8:07 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Ismene  ·  7/17/2017, 7:20 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 7:50 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Ismene  ·  7/17/2017, 2:38 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/17/2017, 10:56 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 11:39 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable ETA  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/17/2017, 11:53 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable ETA  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 11:59 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable ETA  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/17/2017, 12:28 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Katie  ·  7/17/2017, 8:08 AM
I agree (m)  ·  aussiechic04  ·  7/16/2017, 11:43 PM
Re: I agree (m)  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 5:03 AM
Re: I agree (m)  ·  aussiechic04  ·  7/17/2017, 2:43 PM
Re: I agree (m)  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/17/2017, 4:28 PM
Never mind (m)  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 3:43 PM
Re: Never mind (m)  ·  Ismene  ·  7/17/2017, 11:11 PM
Re: Never mind (m)  ·  queenv  ·  7/18/2017, 5:53 AM
Ok, but  ·  aussiechic04  ·  7/17/2017, 8:09 PM
Re: Ok, but  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 8:33 PM
So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  aussiechic04  ·  7/18/2017, 2:49 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  queenv  ·  7/18/2017, 3:46 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  aussiechic04  ·  7/18/2017, 3:55 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  Aine  ·  7/18/2017, 3:15 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/18/2017, 5:26 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  Aine  ·  7/18/2017, 9:18 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/18/2017, 10:01 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  aussiechic04  ·  7/18/2017, 4:13 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  Aine  ·  7/18/2017, 4:31 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  aussiechic04  ·  7/18/2017, 6:22 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/18/2017, 5:28 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  Ismene  ·  7/18/2017, 6:14 PM
Re: So if I were to follow your above statements  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/18/2017, 6:55 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree nt  ·  aussiechic04  ·  7/17/2017, 11:49 PM
Re: Ok, but  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/17/2017, 8:32 PM
Re: Ok, but  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 8:39 PM
Re: Ok, but ETA  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/17/2017, 8:46 PM
Re: Ok, but ETA  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 8:56 PM
Re: Ok, but ETA  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/17/2017, 9:16 PM
Re: Never mind (m)  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/17/2017, 4:24 PM
Re: Never mind (m)  ·  queenv  ·  7/17/2017, 4:45 PM
Re: Never mind (m)  ·  Ismene  ·  7/17/2017, 11:26 PM
Re: Never mind (m)  ·  queenv  ·  7/18/2017, 5:53 AM
Re: Never mind (m)  ·  Ismene  ·  7/18/2017, 9:19 AM
Re: Never mind (m)  ·  Katie  ·  7/18/2017, 8:19 AM
Re: Never mind (m)  ·  queenv  ·  7/18/2017, 8:36 AM
Yeah. I get it now.  ·  Katie  ·  7/18/2017, 2:42 PM
Guys... :)  ·  Aine  ·  7/18/2017, 3:33 PM
Re: Guys... :)  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/18/2017, 5:35 PM
Re: Guys... :)  ·  queenv  ·  7/18/2017, 3:59 PM
Re: Guys... :)  ·  Katie  ·  7/18/2017, 10:57 PM
Re: Guys... :)  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/18/2017, 5:40 PM
I PM'd you (nt)  ·  SlytherClaw  ·  7/17/2017, 5:09 PM
Re: I agree (m)  ·  Pie  ·  7/17/2017, 9:56 AM
Wow  ·  BlackOpinion  ·  7/16/2017, 8:51 PM
Re: Wow  ·  mirfak  ·  7/16/2017, 10:42 PM
Should be under Mirfak's comment. Big apology I was just in shock.  ·  BlackOpinion  ·  7/16/2017, 9:06 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  LillieMae87  ·  7/16/2017, 7:45 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Tuesday  ·  7/17/2017, 6:50 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  mirfak  ·  7/16/2017, 4:22 PM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Perrine  ·  7/16/2017, 10:41 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Katie  ·  7/16/2017, 10:09 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  Martha  ·  7/16/2017, 9:41 AM
THIS THIS THIS  ·  BlackOpinion  ·  7/16/2017, 9:26 AM
Re: The judgment makes me uncomfortable  ·  BlackOpinion  ·  7/16/2017, 9:21 AM
Naming, not among  ·  BlackOpinion  ·  7/16/2017, 9:22 AM
This (m)  ·  queenv  ·  7/16/2017, 8:39 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  Wordsmith  ·  7/16/2017, 7:48 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  Piccadilly  ·  7/16/2017, 7:36 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  RoxStar  ·  7/16/2017, 6:47 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  Perrine  ·  7/16/2017, 7:01 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  LillieMae87  ·  7/16/2017, 6:23 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  RDNZL  ·  7/16/2017, 9:46 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  Ismene  ·  7/16/2017, 9:10 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  queenv  ·  7/16/2017, 7:04 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  Gracie  ·  7/16/2017, 6:16 AM
Words fail me! n/t  ·  Anneza  ·  7/16/2017, 5:57 AM
Re: Have we talked about what Beyoncé named her twins yet?  ·  Ninor  ·  7/16/2017, 4:27 AM