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in reply to a message by Andy ;—)
Dear Andy,
Naturally most of my books are in Greek, since that’s my mother tongue and I really don’t understand the derision with your comment: “Maybe books that don't have a 9 at the beginning of their ISBN number?” by which of course you mean books in Greek, or from Greece. Unfortunately for you, it only shows your prejudice about books from Greece and Greek writers, and, if there are more like you out there, I guess I will really have to start believing in conspiracy theories…!
Now, about my first observation, you can refer to:
“Documents in Mycenaean Greek, Three Hundred Selected Tablets From Knossos, Pylos and Mycenae, With Commentary and Vocabularies”. Michael Ventris and John Chadwick, Cambridge University Press, 1956.
“Corpus of Mycenaean Inscriptions of Knossos”, Volumes 1-4. John Chadwick et al, Cambridge University Press.
I am also quite sure that the latest editions of Liddel and Scott Lexicon do cover words of the Mycenaean vocabulary.
About my fourth observation: Cognation is a very basic principle in etymology. I am really sorry -and surprised- if you are not familiar with that.
Only one book agrees with my explanation about RHODON etymology, only I don’t see why I should mention it to you, since its ISBN number begins with 9…
The only theory I have “as to why the truth has been suppressed?” is that the J.B. Hofmann’s “Etymologisches Worterbuch Des Griechischen” of which most of the other etymology books of Greek are based on, has not been updated since 1950, whereas the Linear B writing was deciphered by M. Ventris and J. Chadwick in 1953.
To conclude: I have full respect for other peoples opinions and findings when they are based on concrete evidence; however since in this case there is not enough to justify that the word RHODON derives from the Old Persian “vrda”, but using basic etymology research justifys the opposite, I have every right to stick to my theory, unless someone can PROVE me wrong. Why not you if you can; I would be very happy, because:
“When two people have a dispute, the loser is actually the winner because he learns something new.”
SOCRATES
Naturally most of my books are in Greek, since that’s my mother tongue and I really don’t understand the derision with your comment: “Maybe books that don't have a 9 at the beginning of their ISBN number?” by which of course you mean books in Greek, or from Greece. Unfortunately for you, it only shows your prejudice about books from Greece and Greek writers, and, if there are more like you out there, I guess I will really have to start believing in conspiracy theories…!
Now, about my first observation, you can refer to:
“Documents in Mycenaean Greek, Three Hundred Selected Tablets From Knossos, Pylos and Mycenae, With Commentary and Vocabularies”. Michael Ventris and John Chadwick, Cambridge University Press, 1956.
“Corpus of Mycenaean Inscriptions of Knossos”, Volumes 1-4. John Chadwick et al, Cambridge University Press.
I am also quite sure that the latest editions of Liddel and Scott Lexicon do cover words of the Mycenaean vocabulary.
About my fourth observation: Cognation is a very basic principle in etymology. I am really sorry -and surprised- if you are not familiar with that.
Only one book agrees with my explanation about RHODON etymology, only I don’t see why I should mention it to you, since its ISBN number begins with 9…
The only theory I have “as to why the truth has been suppressed?” is that the J.B. Hofmann’s “Etymologisches Worterbuch Des Griechischen” of which most of the other etymology books of Greek are based on, has not been updated since 1950, whereas the Linear B writing was deciphered by M. Ventris and J. Chadwick in 1953.
To conclude: I have full respect for other peoples opinions and findings when they are based on concrete evidence; however since in this case there is not enough to justify that the word RHODON derives from the Old Persian “vrda”, but using basic etymology research justifys the opposite, I have every right to stick to my theory, unless someone can PROVE me wrong. Why not you if you can; I would be very happy, because:
“When two people have a dispute, the loser is actually the winner because he learns something new.”
SOCRATES
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