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Hm, obviously I didn't communicate what I was trying to say. I was talking about intuitions based not on gender (man/woman) as a human expression but Gender as an abstract principle, a fundamental asymmetry, a duality that isn't really two separate things but arises from conceptualization ... yin and yang? The Genders (not the genders man and woman) that are asymmetrically interdependent. Symmetry and equality are two different things... Geez, nevermind. I don't think I'm going to be able to successfully communicate what I'm trying to explain here.

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I'm not intuitively less comfortable with femininity, and I don't really think masculinity is "weak." Discomfort with femininity corresponds to insecurity in masculinity, and weak masculinity is only weak because femininity is degraded.

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I think the feminine principles have been honored and functional in Western society. It's *women* who have been dishonored. Feminine things that are *about women* are dishonored. Feminine principles, though, have been disassociated with women, and made out to be abstractions for men to pursue, control, and possess. While masculine principles have remained associated with men.

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Anyway I think it's interesting how people feel about the naming thing ... I'm curious about exactly what people think differently from me, if they did see what I was trying to say, but still think boys-with-girl-names would be really positive. If anyone wants to talk about it, feel free to PM me.

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- mirfak

This message was edited 3/8/2018, 1:15 PM