Response to Catherine and a note to the others
Catherine:
You obviously started this whole mess by insulting people for absolutely no reason. If you can't hold a conversation without calling people arses or biotches (??) then you aren't welcome here.
The others:
I don't like having to delete posts. If you want to flame each other then keep it contained to the original thread. It's not inviting for new visitors to arrive here and see this mayhem, and it's not a good reflection on my site. Thx.