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i submitted my name i guess about a year ago and now when im looking back i cant find anywhere in the database. why?
i've given many details..even the etymology and it is quite common in the province Friesland in the Netherlands (where i live)...so it would be a great miss if it won;t be added, wouldnt it?
For once:
Menke: male Frisian name
which is derived from the frisian/dutch word 'menneke' meaning literally 'little man', the name's meaning is said to be 'male' as well (like the Italian Mario)
i submitted my name i guess about a year ago and now when im looking back i cant find anywhere in the database. why?
i've given many details..even the etymology and it is quite common in the province Friesland in the Netherlands (where i live)...so it would be a great miss if it won;t be added, wouldnt it?
For once:
Menke: male Frisian name
which is derived from the frisian/dutch word 'menneke' meaning literally 'little man', the name's meaning is said to be 'male' as well (like the Italian Mario)
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It takes me a long time to add names. I have email much older than a year that still needs to be dealt with.
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k thx i'll wait and what concerns the origin of the name
i'm sure those book sources are accurate but i also 100% sure about my own language and 'manneke' is just a normal Dutch word that u can find in a good Dutch dictionary and as all those sources state Menke and Menneke are the same, so my explanation of the origin is accurate (enough).
what happens here is that these bookwriters are going deeper and deeper into it. They look for the origin of 'man' and 'manneke' but in that way you can go on and on and when i take a look at the site i don't see why MY explanation isn't accurate enough
i'm sure those book sources are accurate but i also 100% sure about my own language and 'manneke' is just a normal Dutch word that u can find in a good Dutch dictionary and as all those sources state Menke and Menneke are the same, so my explanation of the origin is accurate (enough).
what happens here is that these bookwriters are going deeper and deeper into it. They look for the origin of 'man' and 'manneke' but in that way you can go on and on and when i take a look at the site i don't see why MY explanation isn't accurate enough
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Your name difinitely exsists and I don't see any reason why it should not be added. The derivation you give seems doubtful to me though bacause I can't find it in any of my books. Das große Vornamen Lexikon (DUDEN), usually quite reliable, and Wilfried Seibicke's HDV (Historisches Deutsches Vornamenbuch) both give MEIN > MEGIN / MAGAN ("might") as its root. And at least SEIBICKE usually quotes any possible source if it's not too far our.
Now here I'm going to quote SEIBICKE, who gives a number of historical proofs of the name itself:
°Menke m/w, niederdt. auch [men-], Kosef. von Zuss. mit MEIN; Var.: Menko
Bel. a) männl.: M. Happen 1414 Neubg. zu Hildesheim, ZODER I, 666; Meng(en) 1473 Kininghusen, Mencke van Haeren 1496 Emden, RAVELING 1985, 69; Norderney 1752ff. Menneke, BRONS 1877, 97; Ostfriesld., REERSHEMIUS 1786, 51; - ostfries. Men(c)ke (m/w), Menneke (m/w), Mennke, Mengk, BRONS 1877, 62; auf den nordfries. Inseln vor 1900 Meenk/e, REINHARDT 62; nordfries. M., Menck, Menek, Mennick, JOHANNSEN 120; Christian Remmer Menken Heinks, Mühlenloog, geb. 1884, Ztg.; M. Kampen heir. 1997 Norden, Ztg.; - b) weibl.: Ostfriesld. 1521 Menek(en), 1532 Meenk(en) Fockens, RAVELING 1985, 131; - ostfries. Men(c)ke (m/w), Menneke (m/w), Mengele, BRONS 1877, 62
Menko m, eindeutig männl. Form zu Menke
Bel.: Mengo 1455 u. Mencko 1467 Ostfriesld., RAVELING 1985, 69; - ostfries. Men(c)ko, Menco, BRONS 1877, 62; M. Groenewold, Leer, geb. um 1917, Ztg.; Braunschweig 1987
Andy ;—)
Now here I'm going to quote SEIBICKE, who gives a number of historical proofs of the name itself:
°Menke m/w, niederdt. auch [men-], Kosef. von Zuss. mit MEIN; Var.: Menko
Bel. a) männl.: M. Happen 1414 Neubg. zu Hildesheim, ZODER I, 666; Meng(en) 1473 Kininghusen, Mencke van Haeren 1496 Emden, RAVELING 1985, 69; Norderney 1752ff. Menneke, BRONS 1877, 97; Ostfriesld., REERSHEMIUS 1786, 51; - ostfries. Men(c)ke (m/w), Menneke (m/w), Mennke, Mengk, BRONS 1877, 62; auf den nordfries. Inseln vor 1900 Meenk/e, REINHARDT 62; nordfries. M., Menck, Menek, Mennick, JOHANNSEN 120; Christian Remmer Menken Heinks, Mühlenloog, geb. 1884, Ztg.; M. Kampen heir. 1997 Norden, Ztg.; - b) weibl.: Ostfriesld. 1521 Menek(en), 1532 Meenk(en) Fockens, RAVELING 1985, 131; - ostfries. Men(c)ke (m/w), Menneke (m/w), Mengele, BRONS 1877, 62
Menko m, eindeutig männl. Form zu Menke
Bel.: Mengo 1455 u. Mencko 1467 Ostfriesld., RAVELING 1985, 69; - ostfries. Men(c)ko, Menco, BRONS 1877, 62; M. Groenewold, Leer, geb. um 1917, Ztg.; Braunschweig 1987
Andy ;—)
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Like the others have said, Mike C will not add a name unless he is certain of the origin. Just living in the country is not an indication that you are an expert on the language or on the etymology of local names, although it gives you a better shot at it. Try to come up with several reliable references, historical sources detailing the development of the name, and a number of examples of its use. Then it might get added to the database.
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that might be so but there's no better source than the people from the originating country like me
what concerns the previous message about that source and 'Meine', well it must be another explanation, but the mine is the most accurate.
i mean: just look at it: menke ==> menneke
isn't that obvious enough?
i don't need to add a webpage to confirm that Marie and Maria are from the same origin, do i?
what concerns the previous message about that source and 'Meine', well it must be another explanation, but the mine is the most accurate.
i mean: just look at it: menke ==> menneke
isn't that obvious enough?
i don't need to add a webpage to confirm that Marie and Maria are from the same origin, do i?
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Sounds reasonable.
But it is noteworthy that the Frisian name 'Menneke' itself is also called a variant of Meine on that site I mentioned.
The word menneke (or even 'man') isn't the origin of any surname on there. It's not likely that that is because they never heard of it, there must be a reason we don't know about.
You'll agree that menneke==>menneke is even more obvious than your example :D
But it is noteworthy that the Frisian name 'Menneke' itself is also called a variant of Meine on that site I mentioned.
The word menneke (or even 'man') isn't the origin of any surname on there. It's not likely that that is because they never heard of it, there must be a reason we don't know about.
You'll agree that menneke==>menneke is even more obvious than your example :D
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yes i agree :)
and i also have to say that i added two other Frisian names with their derivations:
frouke ==> vrouwke (little woman)
meike ==> meiske (little girl)
and those weren't submitted to the database too
guess i have to send him a copy of some book or something
and i also have to say that i added two other Frisian names with their derivations:
frouke ==> vrouwke (little woman)
meike ==> meiske (little girl)
and those weren't submitted to the database too
guess i have to send him a copy of some book or something
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Manne derives from the word 'man', as well as Manja (f).
You could add Onno as well... :)
You could add Onno as well... :)
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Perhaps you should include your source of information.
http://www.meertens.knaw.nl/voornamen/VNB/index.php says this name is a variant of Meine, and this is the short form of several Germanic names starting with the 'Mein' (or Megin: strength) element, like Meinhard for example.
(KNAW is the Royal Dutch Academy of Sciences, so not the worst source imaginable).
http://www.meertens.knaw.nl/voornamen/VNB/index.php says this name is a variant of Meine, and this is the short form of several Germanic names starting with the 'Mein' (or Megin: strength) element, like Meinhard for example.
(KNAW is the Royal Dutch Academy of Sciences, so not the worst source imaginable).
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