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In proper Spanish, the "Y" is prn. something an "ee" sound and a "J" sound. Not as harsh as a "J" sound.
The English "J" sound is equivalent to a Spanish "Ll" (double L).
As in the word "Llave"(key) . It is prn. JUH-veh. But when you say "yeso"(chalk), it is prn. ee-EH-soh.
That is very proper Spanish, which is hardly used and varies from country to country. Like Ivayla pointed out, accents can be way different in every Spanish speaking country.
OK, ya no mas!, Hope that wasn't "demasiado",
Magia.
The English "J" sound is equivalent to a Spanish "Ll" (double L).
As in the word "Llave"(key) . It is prn. JUH-veh. But when you say "yeso"(chalk), it is prn. ee-EH-soh.
That is very proper Spanish, which is hardly used and varies from country to country. Like Ivayla pointed out, accents can be way different in every Spanish speaking country.
OK, ya no mas!, Hope that wasn't "demasiado",
Magia.
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But Mexicans, and Hispanic Western Americans in my area, pronounce y like ee or English y.
Magia, who says y for ll, who says ly for ll?? I know both are used...
Y :)
Magia, who says y for ll, who says ly for ll?? I know both are used...
Y :)
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Hard to tell...
I have heard Spaniards, Venezuelans and Colombians(mostly south americans, excludding Argentineans and Uruguayans) pronouncing Ll as an English J sound, but they also pronounce the Spanish Y as the English J... go figure...
Central and North American, Spanish speaking people(Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans, basically caribbean people) prn it like you said, like ee or English Y. That is how I speak spanish. I NEVER use the english J sound when speaking Spanish... go figure, again.
I only know what one is tought in Grammar School. Proper pronaunciation is Spanish Ll = English "J"
Spanish Y = English "Y" or "ee"
Spanish J = English "H"
Magia, who speaks caribbean spanish, del pais de la eterna primavera!
I have heard Spaniards, Venezuelans and Colombians(mostly south americans, excludding Argentineans and Uruguayans) pronouncing Ll as an English J sound, but they also pronounce the Spanish Y as the English J... go figure...
Central and North American, Spanish speaking people(Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans, basically caribbean people) prn it like you said, like ee or English Y. That is how I speak spanish. I NEVER use the english J sound when speaking Spanish... go figure, again.
I only know what one is tought in Grammar School. Proper pronaunciation is Spanish Ll = English "J"
Spanish Y = English "Y" or "ee"
Spanish J = English "H"
Magia, who speaks caribbean spanish, del pais de la eterna primavera!
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And I missed the point of your question...(sorry)
Y for LL is always miss pronounced and it sounds like Enlgish "ee", now days.
-It used to be- that LL was pronounced like Ly, as you pointed out. To be perfectly honest, I had forgotten about that. That is in fact *THE* proper way of pronouncing Spanish Ll. Besides Costaricans, I have NEVER heard anyone say Pollo(chicken) like Pol-yo... I went to "proper speach" class when I was in college and I remember the Spanish expert saying "Ll" should be prnd. "L-Y" but no one ever uses it, there forth it has become "obsolete".
Hope I got it right this time,
Magia
Y for LL is always miss pronounced and it sounds like Enlgish "ee", now days.
-It used to be- that LL was pronounced like Ly, as you pointed out. To be perfectly honest, I had forgotten about that. That is in fact *THE* proper way of pronouncing Spanish Ll. Besides Costaricans, I have NEVER heard anyone say Pollo(chicken) like Pol-yo... I went to "proper speach" class when I was in college and I remember the Spanish expert saying "Ll" should be prnd. "L-Y" but no one ever uses it, there forth it has become "obsolete".
Hope I got it right this time,
Magia
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