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In other languages (apart from English) how is y pronounced. All I know, so far is that in Spanish y is pronounced as j.
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Welsh
In Welsh, y is a vowel. On its own as the definite artcile (i.e. 'the') is pronounced 'euh' - when preceding a word starting with a vowel its 'yr' which is pronounced 'er'.
Within a word, such as bryn (meaning hill) its pronounced 'ih'.
HTH
Lloer
In Welsh, y is a vowel. On its own as the definite artcile (i.e. 'the') is pronounced 'euh' - when preceding a word starting with a vowel its 'yr' which is pronounced 'er'.
Within a word, such as bryn (meaning hill) its pronounced 'ih'.
HTH
Lloer
Actually...
In proper Spanish, the "Y" is prn. something an "ee" sound and a "J" sound. Not as harsh as a "J" sound.
The English "J" sound is equivalent to a Spanish "Ll" (double L).
As in the word "Llave"(key) . It is prn. JUH-veh. But when you say "yeso"(chalk), it is prn. ee-EH-soh.
That is very proper Spanish, which is hardly used and varies from country to country. Like Ivayla pointed out, accents can be way different in every Spanish speaking country.
OK, ya no mas!, Hope that wasn't "demasiado",
Magia.
In proper Spanish, the "Y" is prn. something an "ee" sound and a "J" sound. Not as harsh as a "J" sound.
The English "J" sound is equivalent to a Spanish "Ll" (double L).
As in the word "Llave"(key) . It is prn. JUH-veh. But when you say "yeso"(chalk), it is prn. ee-EH-soh.
That is very proper Spanish, which is hardly used and varies from country to country. Like Ivayla pointed out, accents can be way different in every Spanish speaking country.
OK, ya no mas!, Hope that wasn't "demasiado",
Magia.
But Mexicans, and Hispanic Western Americans in my area, pronounce y like ee or English y.
Magia, who says y for ll, who says ly for ll?? I know both are used...
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Magia, who says y for ll, who says ly for ll?? I know both are used...
Y :)
Hard to tell...
I have heard Spaniards, Venezuelans and Colombians(mostly south americans, excludding Argentineans and Uruguayans) pronouncing Ll as an English J sound, but they also pronounce the Spanish Y as the English J... go figure...
Central and North American, Spanish speaking people(Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans, basically caribbean people) prn it like you said, like ee or English Y. That is how I speak spanish. I NEVER use the english J sound when speaking Spanish... go figure, again.
I only know what one is tought in Grammar School. Proper pronaunciation is Spanish Ll = English "J"
Spanish Y = English "Y" or "ee"
Spanish J = English "H"
Magia, who speaks caribbean spanish, del pais de la eterna primavera!
I have heard Spaniards, Venezuelans and Colombians(mostly south americans, excludding Argentineans and Uruguayans) pronouncing Ll as an English J sound, but they also pronounce the Spanish Y as the English J... go figure...
Central and North American, Spanish speaking people(Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans, basically caribbean people) prn it like you said, like ee or English Y. That is how I speak spanish. I NEVER use the english J sound when speaking Spanish... go figure, again.
I only know what one is tought in Grammar School. Proper pronaunciation is Spanish Ll = English "J"
Spanish Y = English "Y" or "ee"
Spanish J = English "H"
Magia, who speaks caribbean spanish, del pais de la eterna primavera!
And I missed the point of your question...(sorry)
Y for LL is always miss pronounced and it sounds like Enlgish "ee", now days.
-It used to be- that LL was pronounced like Ly, as you pointed out. To be perfectly honest, I had forgotten about that. That is in fact *THE* proper way of pronouncing Spanish Ll. Besides Costaricans, I have NEVER heard anyone say Pollo(chicken) like Pol-yo... I went to "proper speach" class when I was in college and I remember the Spanish expert saying "Ll" should be prnd. "L-Y" but no one ever uses it, there forth it has become "obsolete".
Hope I got it right this time,
Magia
Y for LL is always miss pronounced and it sounds like Enlgish "ee", now days.
-It used to be- that LL was pronounced like Ly, as you pointed out. To be perfectly honest, I had forgotten about that. That is in fact *THE* proper way of pronouncing Spanish Ll. Besides Costaricans, I have NEVER heard anyone say Pollo(chicken) like Pol-yo... I went to "proper speach" class when I was in college and I remember the Spanish expert saying "Ll" should be prnd. "L-Y" but no one ever uses it, there forth it has become "obsolete".
Hope I got it right this time,
Magia
Thanks, Magia!
Y :)
Y :)
Un placer!
No, spanish j is pronounced as y, not the other way around!
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It *is* the other way around
except that in Argentina the "y" is pronounced as "sh", so they say "sho" and "plasha" for "yo" and "playa."
except that in Argentina the "y" is pronounced as "sh", so they say "sho" and "plasha" for "yo" and "playa."
Argentinean and uruguayan Y ("sh")
So true!, And funny, also, how they pronounce the Y with a "SH" sound. Gotta love them for it!. Although, Uruguayans and Argentineans are aware that such pronunciation is incorrect. It is a *popular* manner of speech, which is improper. At schools, teachers encourage the kids NOT to say "sh" but "J" (English sound) when they speak a "Y". I say LET THEM!! They wouldn't be half as charming if they they ware "accent-free".
Sorry for the long note about stuff only I care about... couldn't help myself :op
Magia.
So true!, And funny, also, how they pronounce the Y with a "SH" sound. Gotta love them for it!. Although, Uruguayans and Argentineans are aware that such pronunciation is incorrect. It is a *popular* manner of speech, which is improper. At schools, teachers encourage the kids NOT to say "sh" but "J" (English sound) when they speak a "Y". I say LET THEM!! They wouldn't be half as charming if they they ware "accent-free".
Sorry for the long note about stuff only I care about... couldn't help myself :op
Magia.
True that
Two of my Spanish professor have been Argentine, and both of them go with the "j" in class, but in private conversations it's always "sho" and "tortisha".
And there is this song on the radio - "*sho* rompere tus photos, *sho* cemare tus cartas para no verte mas"... I have no idea who the singer is, but I love listening to it :P
Two of my Spanish professor have been Argentine, and both of them go with the "j" in class, but in private conversations it's always "sho" and "tortisha".
And there is this song on the radio - "*sho* rompere tus photos, *sho* cemare tus cartas para no verte mas"... I have no idea who the singer is, but I love listening to it :P
La Mosca!!
The singer is La Mosca. I like that song as well. I think they only have 2 albums so far and they are both really good. Maybe you can find the CD in any shop, but if not, you can download their songs form LimeWire :o)
The singer is La Mosca. I like that song as well. I think they only have 2 albums so far and they are both really good. Maybe you can find the CD in any shop, but if not, you can download their songs form LimeWire :o)
LOL! I knew I was at the right place to ask :P
Oh well, not "cemare", but "quemare." Too much rum for tonight
Apparently the band is called La Mosca Tse Tse
Apparently the band is called La Mosca Tse Tse
No hay problema, che!
listen!
Hi Anya,
Here you can listen to the Finnish pronunciation of Y:
http://www.sci.fi/~kajun/finns/female.htm
Choose "Kyllikki" for the short version and "Lyyli" for the long one.
In Swedish, Norwegian and Danish it's almost the same pronunciation as in Finnish.
For the German pronunciation you can listen here:
http://www.ex.ac.uk/german/abinitio/pronounce/
On the left side you can choose "Sounds: j, y". In German, Y is only used in foreign words.
(In all countries mentioned above, your name would be spelled Anja!).
Regards, Satu
Hi Anya,
Here you can listen to the Finnish pronunciation of Y:
http://www.sci.fi/~kajun/finns/female.htm
Choose "Kyllikki" for the short version and "Lyyli" for the long one.
In Swedish, Norwegian and Danish it's almost the same pronunciation as in Finnish.
For the German pronunciation you can listen here:
http://www.ex.ac.uk/german/abinitio/pronounce/
On the left side you can choose "Sounds: j, y". In German, Y is only used in foreign words.
(In all countries mentioned above, your name would be spelled Anja!).
Regards, Satu