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HelpYa know, this is an OPINIONS board.
in reply to a message by Lillian
And just because you have no problem with naming a girl Charles doesn't mean the rest of us have to like it. I'm with mafiosa: just because not everyone is a parent and/or shares YOUR taste in names doesn't mean that we don't all have the right to state our opinions. Personally, I think Charles is hideous on a girl and would have honored him by using Charlotte, Carla, Clarissa, etc.
And to you, Lillian, how much thought do you put into YOUR posts before yelling at the rest of the board for disagreeing with a name choice?
And to you, Lillian, how much thought do you put into YOUR posts before yelling at the rest of the board for disagreeing with a name choice?
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And, uh, Lillian was stating an opinion....
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I agree
I mean come on, there are people who named their kids Kayghtelynne (seriously, I know a girl who spells her name that way), is their opinion more valuable or important just because they actually went through the process of naming a child? That argumentation is just ridiculous.
Yes, she wanted to honor her father which is nice. But she could have done that a million other ways. She could have waited for a boy to name or she could have gone with Charlotte, Charlene, Charlotta, Carlotta Charlize, Charla, Carla, Carlotta, Carline, Caroline, Carolina etc I mean the possibilities are endless. Charles is hideous on a girl.
and you (Lillian) are very very rude.
I mean come on, there are people who named their kids Kayghtelynne (seriously, I know a girl who spells her name that way), is their opinion more valuable or important just because they actually went through the process of naming a child? That argumentation is just ridiculous.
Yes, she wanted to honor her father which is nice. But she could have done that a million other ways. She could have waited for a boy to name or she could have gone with Charlotte, Charlene, Charlotta, Carlotta Charlize, Charla, Carla, Carlotta, Carline, Caroline, Carolina etc I mean the possibilities are endless. Charles is hideous on a girl.
and you (Lillian) are very very rude.
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Her father's name wasn't Charlotte
or Charlene Charlotta Carlotta Charlize Charla Carla Carlotta [again, you said] Carline Caroline or Carolina. She wanted to honor him with his name. I can see that and I don't even know her.
And if you (Lily8) don't get that then you are very very insensitive.
Also impertinent. I'm very certain I'm much older than you. So there. :p
or Charlene Charlotta Carlotta Charlize Charla Carla Carlotta [again, you said] Carline Caroline or Carolina. She wanted to honor him with his name. I can see that and I don't even know her.
And if you (Lily8) don't get that then you are very very insensitive.
Also impertinent. I'm very certain I'm much older than you. So there. :p
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I can't believe how narrow minded you are. Sorry, but this is YOUR opinion. YOU think that people should use the full name when they're honoring another person. YOU think Charles is fine on a girl.
I think that Charles isn't nice on a girl. I think that people can use variants on a name when they are honoring another person.
You see? TWO opinions. two DIFFERENT opinions. Did I ever say that your opinion is wrong? NO. Opinions can't be wrong because they're subjective. They are supposed to be because they are opinions and they reflect what ONE person thinks.
and YOU don't have the right to call me insensitive just because I dislike Charles on a girl no matter what. I can of course understand why they chose Charles for their daughter I understand why they were using it and I accept their choice but I still dislike it. Do you get it?
I hope that last sentence was a joke, really. Otherwise it's just ridiculous. Age doesn't make you more intelligent or your opinion more valuable than mine.
I think that Charles isn't nice on a girl. I think that people can use variants on a name when they are honoring another person.
You see? TWO opinions. two DIFFERENT opinions. Did I ever say that your opinion is wrong? NO. Opinions can't be wrong because they're subjective. They are supposed to be because they are opinions and they reflect what ONE person thinks.
and YOU don't have the right to call me insensitive just because I dislike Charles on a girl no matter what. I can of course understand why they chose Charles for their daughter I understand why they were using it and I accept their choice but I still dislike it. Do you get it?
I hope that last sentence was a joke, really. Otherwise it's just ridiculous. Age doesn't make you more intelligent or your opinion more valuable than mine.
This message was edited 12/11/2008, 2:40 AM
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Like Chrisell, I strongly suspect you of not having read my other responses before posting this.
I specifically said I do not advocate Charles-on-a-girl. Pay some damn attention. What I tried to point out is that there can be perfectly reasonable explanations why someone would choose that, and I wish those reasons could be acknowledged. I just wanted y'all to think! Other respondents in this thread have said, I get what you're saying and I still don't like it, and that's fine! That's all I ever wanted! Why is that so damn hard?
You called me rude. I called you insensitive and impertinent. Of course there's ridiculousness involved. This whole frakkin thread's gotten ridiculous.
I specifically said I do not advocate Charles-on-a-girl. Pay some damn attention. What I tried to point out is that there can be perfectly reasonable explanations why someone would choose that, and I wish those reasons could be acknowledged. I just wanted y'all to think! Other respondents in this thread have said, I get what you're saying and I still don't like it, and that's fine! That's all I ever wanted! Why is that so damn hard?
You called me rude. I called you insensitive and impertinent. Of course there's ridiculousness involved. This whole frakkin thread's gotten ridiculous.
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Excuse me, I DID pay attention to what you were saying. I read everything you had to say on this topic.
I also know that you are not a fan of Charles on a girl and that you were only trying to say that there was reasoning behind their choice. And do you know what? I got it. I got exactly what you mean.
But I don't care WHY they chose it. The question was whether we liked the name or not and I just dislike Charles on the girl. I considered the honoring part but I still dislike it.
I know that you only wanted people to see why they chose the name but most people don't change their opinion on a name just because it has meaning to somebody else.
I don't know if you read my answer properly but I did mention that I indeed considered the honoring part and that I still dislike it.
Nobody had a problem with you saying what was on your mind the thing that bothered me was HOW you said it.
You have been extremely rude and insulting. You called people name- Nazis and now you use "damn". What's wrong with you? I understand that you apologized for the name-Nazi part but something like that is just hard to take back. Most people wouldn't dare say stuff like that. I'm from Germany as well and maybe you don't understand how extremely insulting something like that is. You are extremely rude and thoughtless and just trying to defend your opinions all of the time.
I don't know what to say. You're correcting other people's spelling mistakes yet you aren't even able to watch your own language.
I may have called you rude but that's not a swear word as far as I'm concerned. And it's the truth.
I also know that you are not a fan of Charles on a girl and that you were only trying to say that there was reasoning behind their choice. And do you know what? I got it. I got exactly what you mean.
But I don't care WHY they chose it. The question was whether we liked the name or not and I just dislike Charles on the girl. I considered the honoring part but I still dislike it.
I know that you only wanted people to see why they chose the name but most people don't change their opinion on a name just because it has meaning to somebody else.
I don't know if you read my answer properly but I did mention that I indeed considered the honoring part and that I still dislike it.
Nobody had a problem with you saying what was on your mind the thing that bothered me was HOW you said it.
You have been extremely rude and insulting. You called people name- Nazis and now you use "damn". What's wrong with you? I understand that you apologized for the name-Nazi part but something like that is just hard to take back. Most people wouldn't dare say stuff like that. I'm from Germany as well and maybe you don't understand how extremely insulting something like that is. You are extremely rude and thoughtless and just trying to defend your opinions all of the time.
I don't know what to say. You're correcting other people's spelling mistakes yet you aren't even able to watch your own language.
I may have called you rude but that's not a swear word as far as I'm concerned. And it's the truth.
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You're relatively new here. You are at something of a disadvantage in arguments about my language because you have no idea the bombs I've set off before now. How I said what I said was much cleaner than what I've said in the past. I didn't even say fuck once.
Except that one.
I watch my own language very closely. Now you watch this:
I'm done with you. *poof*
Except that one.
I watch my own language very closely. Now you watch this:
I'm done with you. *poof*
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Wow. I'd be embarrassed to be talking like that. Well, I guess it's not my problem.
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I guess it's just to each their own. I personally would have gone with something feminine like Charlotte to honor Charles (just like my uncle wanted to use Olivia to honor his father, Oliver), but obviously she felt different. Oh well, we can't do anything about that now, the baby is already named. But yeah, even though I wish she had chosen a more feminine name, I see your point :)
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Thank you, Joan-Ay, that is very kind of you
and very civilized. More civilized than me at this point. I appreciate your kindness.
Thanks again.
Also, it's snowing in Houston right now. Nickel sized flakes this afternoon. It was magic. Just so you know.
Thanks one more time.
and very civilized. More civilized than me at this point. I appreciate your kindness.
Thanks again.
Also, it's snowing in Houston right now. Nickel sized flakes this afternoon. It was magic. Just so you know.
Thanks one more time.
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You're very welcome!
And yes I heard about the snow! How cool is that?! My friend Delores was telling me about it just a little bit ago :D
And yes I heard about the snow! How cool is that?! My friend Delores was telling me about it just a little bit ago :D
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That doesn't make tiresome opinions less tiresome.
And you guys offer up tiresome opinions way more than anyone scolds you for it.
It is like being on a board about music where everyone persistently and universally condemns rock and roll as electronic noise.
And you guys offer up tiresome opinions way more than anyone scolds you for it.
It is like being on a board about music where everyone persistently and universally condemns rock and roll as electronic noise.
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Adios.
This is what I don't understand.
If someone does not like the board, why post here? There are thousands of other name boards out there, you post there. Why? I chose the boards I post on because I tend to have things in common with people and I find what they read interesting. If you continually disagree and find this board boring - then why post here? This is what I don't understand.
Why don't you and Array flutter off, set up a few more websites, insult people and act like elitists while accusing everyone ELSE of being one? Either that or accept the way the board is AND STOP BITCHING ABOUT IT. You CHOSE to be here. You CHOSE to make these posts - and from what I have seen from your posts most people have been accepting.
Just wow. If you don't like the board, then get out. I have enjoyed your past discussions, I have enjoyed the fact that you have changed my opinions on various names and what-not...but I don't your petulant, childish antics.
This is what I don't understand.
If someone does not like the board, why post here? There are thousands of other name boards out there, you post there. Why? I chose the boards I post on because I tend to have things in common with people and I find what they read interesting. If you continually disagree and find this board boring - then why post here? This is what I don't understand.
Why don't you and Array flutter off, set up a few more websites, insult people and act like elitists while accusing everyone ELSE of being one? Either that or accept the way the board is AND STOP BITCHING ABOUT IT. You CHOSE to be here. You CHOSE to make these posts - and from what I have seen from your posts most people have been accepting.
Just wow. If you don't like the board, then get out. I have enjoyed your past discussions, I have enjoyed the fact that you have changed my opinions on various names and what-not...but I don't your petulant, childish antics.
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Of course.
Because it would be a bit weird to be "scolded" for expressing opinions on an opinion board. I for one like these "tiresome" opinions much better than the "OMG OMG JAYMZ ON A GIRL IS SO KEWT! U GO GIRL!!!" sentiments of other naming boards out there.
Because it would be a bit weird to be "scolded" for expressing opinions on an opinion board. I for one like these "tiresome" opinions much better than the "OMG OMG JAYMZ ON A GIRL IS SO KEWT! U GO GIRL!!!" sentiments of other naming boards out there.
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Ohforcryingoutloud
Lately you've been acting rather elitist, if I may say so.
Perhaps you're right. Perhaps we do overreact.
But nobody's forcing you to come post here. Nobody's forcing you on the opinions board.
You get away with a lot of really bratty posts because you type them in a silly format.
"you guys"... jeez... we're not a collective.
Lately you've been acting rather elitist, if I may say so.
Perhaps you're right. Perhaps we do overreact.
But nobody's forcing you to come post here. Nobody's forcing you on the opinions board.
You get away with a lot of really bratty posts because you type them in a silly format.
"you guys"... jeez... we're not a collective.
This message was edited 12/10/2008, 3:10 PM
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I second that notion
First and for most... Lilian is entitled to her utter distain in our opinions just as much as "we" can despise Charles on a girl. ;-)
that said... this is an opinion board and that's what we come here for. not everyone is going to agree and you can't please everyone. just don't take it personally. If it's too much for you to handle, then sorry to see you go.
First and for most... Lilian is entitled to her utter distain in our opinions just as much as "we" can despise Charles on a girl. ;-)
that said... this is an opinion board and that's what we come here for. not everyone is going to agree and you can't please everyone. just don't take it personally. If it's too much for you to handle, then sorry to see you go.
This message was edited 12/10/2008, 3:36 PM
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opposite of elitist
In reality, I am incredibly sick of BTN and only keep coming back because I can't get my mind off more and more and more names and I always other namenerds to talk to, and there are a few posters who have opinions worth reading anymore. Do you guys realize how repetitive you are? Here is the formula for 80%+ of your opinions:
(legit name) (legit name) : Good / NMS but good
(legit name misspelled even if you do not like it spelled right and even if it is unpronouncable in english the normal way) : Whyyyyy [correct spelling] would have been sooo much better
(surname at all): Bad if it is not honoring
(word name that is not Rose or Grace or whatever) : Bad
(unless you are a little bit daring and say 'you know I kind of like ocean or nightingale or whatever and then get really bold by shortlisting them)
(typical of black people) : Stripperish / Cruel
It isn't that you do not have any rights to your opinions. It's just that they are very rarely interesting at all. It's like being stuck in a time warp. You drive all the interesting people to frustration and/or leaving.
I guess I should try not to come back this time. So long, everyone. I don't think I'll be missed much; I have been pretty cranky/bratty lately, and besides I didn't sit around asking opinions of Charlotte Louisa (lovely! OR fine; I'm sick of Charlotte) and James Frederick (very handsome; [frederick is nms but fine] OR [frederick is sooo handsome] and I love James, sooo glad it's not on a girl) all the time. (James and Charlotte *swoons* what a lovely sibset!!)
I must understand that I have no idea what you mean by formatted sillily.
Not that I care pretty much at all, at this point.
In reality, I am incredibly sick of BTN and only keep coming back because I can't get my mind off more and more and more names and I always other namenerds to talk to, and there are a few posters who have opinions worth reading anymore. Do you guys realize how repetitive you are? Here is the formula for 80%+ of your opinions:
(legit name) (legit name) : Good / NMS but good
(legit name misspelled even if you do not like it spelled right and even if it is unpronouncable in english the normal way) : Whyyyyy [correct spelling] would have been sooo much better
(surname at all): Bad if it is not honoring
(word name that is not Rose or Grace or whatever) : Bad
(unless you are a little bit daring and say 'you know I kind of like ocean or nightingale or whatever and then get really bold by shortlisting them)
(typical of black people) : Stripperish / Cruel
It isn't that you do not have any rights to your opinions. It's just that they are very rarely interesting at all. It's like being stuck in a time warp. You drive all the interesting people to frustration and/or leaving.
I guess I should try not to come back this time. So long, everyone. I don't think I'll be missed much; I have been pretty cranky/bratty lately, and besides I didn't sit around asking opinions of Charlotte Louisa (lovely! OR fine; I'm sick of Charlotte) and James Frederick (very handsome; [frederick is nms but fine] OR [frederick is sooo handsome] and I love James, sooo glad it's not on a girl) all the time. (James and Charlotte *swoons* what a lovely sibset!!)
I must understand that I have no idea what you mean by formatted sillily.
Not that I care pretty much at all, at this point.
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I feel the same way sometimes
I used to be heavily into traditional names, but recently my list has gotten wackier just because old-fashioned names that are spelled perfectly correctly are kinda boring after a while. I've been trying to expand my horizons and I encourage others to do the same.
I used to be heavily into traditional names, but recently my list has gotten wackier just because old-fashioned names that are spelled perfectly correctly are kinda boring after a while. I've been trying to expand my horizons and I encourage others to do the same.
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Please don't leave.
Maybe take a while to come back, but please don't leave. I don't want Lillian to leave, either.
:(
Maybe take a while to come back, but please don't leave. I don't want Lillian to leave, either.
:(
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It would be a terrible shame for you to go.
Your posts are always, interesting, vibrant and intelligent (even if a little head-strong at times :) ).
Your posts are always, interesting, vibrant and intelligent (even if a little head-strong at times :) ).
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I agree
For the most part, your names are totally not my style, but that doesn't stop me from thinking that 99% of your combos are really awesome.
I'm sorry that you think the opinions here are getting to be predictable, though I can see where you're coming from. But it's posters like you who would suggest something other than 'Charlotte' or 'James' to pair with those first names I haven't yet settled on a combo for, so I'd hate to see you go.
For the most part, your names are totally not my style, but that doesn't stop me from thinking that 99% of your combos are really awesome.
I'm sorry that you think the opinions here are getting to be predictable, though I can see where you're coming from. But it's posters like you who would suggest something other than 'Charlotte' or 'James' to pair with those first names I haven't yet settled on a combo for, so I'd hate to see you go.
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Tippins,
Have you discovered BabyNameWizard.com? (I sound like an ad haha). It's a good source for baby name fix and opinions that isn't in a messageboard feedback so its not so much like an opinion poll i.m.o.
EDITED: Because I meant Wizard, not world
Have you discovered BabyNameWizard.com? (I sound like an ad haha). It's a good source for baby name fix and opinions that isn't in a messageboard feedback so its not so much like an opinion poll i.m.o.
EDITED: Because I meant Wizard, not world
This message was edited 12/10/2008, 4:43 PM
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0h well, why don't you just exchange email addresses with the people whose opinions you value and leave this board? Sorry, not trying to be mean, just an honest question. We have email addresses and msn messengers you really don't need to come here if you don't want to.
I like word names such as Snow, Egypt, Remember and Sky and a few last names as first names. But yeah, I dislike misspelled names. and even if I don't like the original name I still think Caitlin is better than Kayghtelynne.
I like word names such as Snow, Egypt, Remember and Sky and a few last names as first names. But yeah, I dislike misspelled names. and even if I don't like the original name I still think Caitlin is better than Kayghtelynne.
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Why are you criticizing people for stating their honest opinion on a name? Yeah it might be tiresome to read "Charles is hideous on a girl" but it's an opinion and the person who opened this thread was asking for opinions. So if you think they're tiresome, why do you even bother to read any?
and why do people have the right to scold me for my opinion no matter how many times I give it? It's just an opinion and I can give it whenever I'm asked to and nobody can criticize me for what I think. It's personal taste.
and why do people have the right to scold me for my opinion no matter how many times I give it? It's just an opinion and I can give it whenever I'm asked to and nobody can criticize me for what I think. It's personal taste.
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I agree with you too as a matter of fact
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Amen, sister.
For the record, I find being yelled at rather tiresome. But maybe that's just me.
For the record, I find being yelled at rather tiresome. But maybe that's just me.
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Yeah, for serious.
If people are tired of hearing criticisms about Charles-on-a-girl they can stop reporting sightings of Charles-on-a-girl. We were asked for our opinions. It's not as if we made a random post saying "you know what I hate? Charles-on-a-girl. Let's stew."
If people are tired of hearing criticisms about Charles-on-a-girl they can stop reporting sightings of Charles-on-a-girl. We were asked for our opinions. It's not as if we made a random post saying "you know what I hate? Charles-on-a-girl. Let's stew."
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