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Help[Opinions] Re: Saffron Domini
in reply to a message by mirfak
I understand you don't mean good or bad. I didn't mean kitschy is bad either. Saffron doesn't seem less silly to me than Trinity, though; honestly neither does Myron but for a different reason...but then, I don't really think of Trinity as loftier than Clover...I guess I see what you mean about sublime/esoteric (I interpret as more detached/intangible? which probably sounds wrong but more like Joy than Rose? Unless Rose is sublime, then I'm confused. Unless it's all personal preference - I don't understand why Sage wouldn't have abstract traditional symbolism either.)
But yeah, I think Saffron can be a metaphor?
Apart from being culturally associated with religious celebrations (like sabbath or Easter; I guess primarily in Europe or in older traditions, because I don't have those associations personally), Saffron does get mentioned in the Song of Songs part of the bible, so I feel like it's reasonable to say it can be a spiritual metaphor for beauty. Of course the Song of Songs is about sensuous pleasure and also has descriptions like Your hair is like a flock of goats...your teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn, coming up from the washing, so its beauty standards aren't exactly modern (*and* mustard is in the bible too), but oh well, it's still a mystical garden metaphor. I'd assume it was motivated by some association like that with a middle name like Domini.
Though I feel like the stronger spiritual association is with the color/dye-
(this is from the Saffron color wiki page)
Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism associate saffron with the pious renunciation of material life.
Buddhist monks in the Theravada tradition typically wear saffron robes (although occasionally maroon — the color normally worn by Vajrayana Buddhist monks — is worn). The tone of saffron typically worn by Theravada Buddhist monks is the lighter tone of saffron shown above.
Saffron holds symbolic meaning in Sikhism, representing spirit and sacrifice. Originally a shade of yellow called basanti, the field of the modern Nishan Sahib is saffron. Turbans worn by Sikhs most often are blue or white, but basanti colour is common.
I think that's why I'm indifferent to it possibly. It seems too heavy metaphorically but not in a familiar/sentimental way to me personally...anyway, I'd assume one or both of those symbolic things (beauty/pleasure and spirit/sacrifice) might be part of the appeal...which is a little funny because I think saffron robes are supposed to be unattractive but still kind of are a metaphor for spiritual beauty.
I think it's probably also appealing because of the reasons you gave, like being French sounding, and it does seem vaguely comparable to (sassy) sassafras, which I've seen as a character name next to (indie) Indigo. Plus it reminds me of Sophronia.
But yeah, I think Saffron can be a metaphor?
Apart from being culturally associated with religious celebrations (like sabbath or Easter; I guess primarily in Europe or in older traditions, because I don't have those associations personally), Saffron does get mentioned in the Song of Songs part of the bible, so I feel like it's reasonable to say it can be a spiritual metaphor for beauty. Of course the Song of Songs is about sensuous pleasure and also has descriptions like Your hair is like a flock of goats...your teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn, coming up from the washing, so its beauty standards aren't exactly modern (*and* mustard is in the bible too), but oh well, it's still a mystical garden metaphor. I'd assume it was motivated by some association like that with a middle name like Domini.
Though I feel like the stronger spiritual association is with the color/dye-
(this is from the Saffron color wiki page)
Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism associate saffron with the pious renunciation of material life.
Buddhist monks in the Theravada tradition typically wear saffron robes (although occasionally maroon — the color normally worn by Vajrayana Buddhist monks — is worn). The tone of saffron typically worn by Theravada Buddhist monks is the lighter tone of saffron shown above.
Saffron holds symbolic meaning in Sikhism, representing spirit and sacrifice. Originally a shade of yellow called basanti, the field of the modern Nishan Sahib is saffron. Turbans worn by Sikhs most often are blue or white, but basanti colour is common.
I think that's why I'm indifferent to it possibly. It seems too heavy metaphorically but not in a familiar/sentimental way to me personally...anyway, I'd assume one or both of those symbolic things (beauty/pleasure and spirit/sacrifice) might be part of the appeal...which is a little funny because I think saffron robes are supposed to be unattractive but still kind of are a metaphor for spiritual beauty.
I think it's probably also appealing because of the reasons you gave, like being French sounding, and it does seem vaguely comparable to (sassy) sassafras, which I've seen as a character name next to (indie) Indigo. Plus it reminds me of Sophronia.
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