Re: Strange meanings...
in reply to a message by Lilith
Well it aint that bad for our friend Andrea . As mentioned previously, her name is derived from "andreia" which means valliance (of course "andreia" is derived from "aner" (man) but that was before the PC thought police castrated our minds).
Here is a list of my favorite wierd Greek names:
10. Ermaphroditus (meaning "hermaphrodite")
9. Akindynos, M (meaning "harmless")
8. Parallelos, M (meaning parallel)
7. Onesimos, M (meaning "donkeyable")
6. Satyros, M (meaning "Satyr")
5. Trofimos, M (meaning "imnate")
4. Ilaria , F (meaning "hilarious") -- Hillary ?
3. Onesiforos, M (meaning "carrying a donkey")
2. Euthanasia, F (meaning "pleasant death")
...and the winner is
1. Kalliopos, M (meaning "guy possessing a good hole")
Note I have made a point of selecting my names from early Saints of the Greek Orthodox Church. Yep folks, all of the above are recognized saints.
Here is a list of my favorite wierd Greek names:
10. Ermaphroditus (meaning "hermaphrodite")
9. Akindynos, M (meaning "harmless")
8. Parallelos, M (meaning parallel)
7. Onesimos, M (meaning "donkeyable")
6. Satyros, M (meaning "Satyr")
5. Trofimos, M (meaning "imnate")
4. Ilaria , F (meaning "hilarious") -- Hillary ?
3. Onesiforos, M (meaning "carrying a donkey")
2. Euthanasia, F (meaning "pleasant death")
...and the winner is
1. Kalliopos, M (meaning "guy possessing a good hole")
Note I have made a point of selecting my names from early Saints of the Greek Orthodox Church. Yep folks, all of the above are recognized saints.
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A few claricications.
* Trofimos: Besides "inmate", trofimos also means "nourishing, nutricious" as well as "nusling". It is derived from the word "trophe" ("nourishment"). The name appears occasionally in Russia (eg. Trofim Lyssenko).
* Onesimos and Onesiforos: The unfortunate donkey association that has plagued these names is from the word "onos" (ass). In fact the names' true etymology is from "pnesis" meaning "profit, benefit, advantage".
*Kalliopos" suffers the same unfortunate association as the otherwise beautiful name Kalliope : "kalo" (good) and "ope" (hole). However the ultimate etymology for both names is from "kalo" (good) and "ops" (voice). But this certainly not generally recognized, and the names have always been subject to vicious wordplay. For example, the slang word for toilet in Greek is "Kalliope " (as it is John in English).
* Trofimos: Besides "inmate", trofimos also means "nourishing, nutricious" as well as "nusling". It is derived from the word "trophe" ("nourishment"). The name appears occasionally in Russia (eg. Trofim Lyssenko).
* Onesimos and Onesiforos: The unfortunate donkey association that has plagued these names is from the word "onos" (ass). In fact the names' true etymology is from "pnesis" meaning "profit, benefit, advantage".
*Kalliopos" suffers the same unfortunate association as the otherwise beautiful name Kalliope : "kalo" (good) and "ope" (hole). However the ultimate etymology for both names is from "kalo" (good) and "ops" (voice). But this certainly not generally recognized, and the names have always been subject to vicious wordplay. For example, the slang word for toilet in Greek is "Kalliope " (as it is John in English).
Well, the "Anti-" part is unambiguous.
"-ope" however is quite debatable. It can be either from:
1. "ope" meaning "hole"
2. "ope" meaning
- of Place: "by which or what way, in which or what direction"
- of a Manner: "in what way, how, as"
- with other Particles: "in what possible direction or manner" (Liddel & Scott )
3. "ops" meaning "a poeting noun denoting voice, whether in speaking, shouting, lamenting" (Liddel & Scott )
4. "opsis" meaning "face", as you mention.
I would (arbitrarily, granted) count out 1 and 3. I would tend to go for 4 (which is the definition you have posted) although I cannot exclude 3 either (which would make Antiope synonymous to "nonconformist").
Sorry for being incoherent, its a Monday morning...
"-ope" however is quite debatable. It can be either from:
1. "ope" meaning "hole"
2. "ope" meaning
- of Place: "by which or what way, in which or what direction"
- of a Manner: "in what way, how, as"
- with other Particles: "in what possible direction or manner" (Liddel & Scott )
3. "ops" meaning "a poeting noun denoting voice, whether in speaking, shouting, lamenting" (Liddel & Scott )
4. "opsis" meaning "face", as you mention.
I would (arbitrarily, granted) count out 1 and 3. I would tend to go for 4 (which is the definition you have posted) although I cannot exclude 3 either (which would make Antiope synonymous to "nonconformist").
Sorry for being incoherent, its a Monday morning...
PS being queen of the Amazons surely qualifies as "nonconformist" :P
Thanks for your help again Pavlos!
Pleasure is all mine
Maybe *donkeyful* or *donkeysome* would be better translations :P
See, in Esperanto...
...we don't have these questionable word formations. Your "donkeyful" or "donkeysome" would simply be "azeneca" -- "possessing the quality of a donkey."
Just another plug for the International Language -- in which words can't be naturally misspelled, mispronounced, or mis-used. :)
-- Nanaea
...we don't have these questionable word formations. Your "donkeyful" or "donkeysome" would simply be "azeneca" -- "possessing the quality of a donkey."
Just another plug for the International Language -- in which words can't be naturally misspelled, mispronounced, or mis-used. :)
-- Nanaea
Donkey-shun Nanjo! :)
Very, very cool, Pavlos. Extremely cool, in fact. You get 10 "cool points" today! :)
Thanks! I'm gonna buy me a second-hand russian guitar from an Albanian refugee! :)