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in reply to a message by Pavlos
* Trofimos: Besides "inmate", trofimos also means "nourishing, nutricious" as well as "nusling". It is derived from the word "trophe" ("nourishment"). The name appears occasionally in Russia (eg. Trofim Lyssenko).
* Onesimos and Onesiforos: The unfortunate donkey association that has plagued these names is from the word "onos" (ass). In fact the names' true etymology is from "pnesis" meaning "profit, benefit, advantage".
*Kalliopos" suffers the same unfortunate association as the otherwise beautiful name Kalliope : "kalo" (good) and "ope" (hole). However the ultimate etymology for both names is from "kalo" (good) and "ops" (voice). But this certainly not generally recognized, and the names have always been subject to vicious wordplay. For example, the slang word for toilet in Greek is "Kalliope " (as it is John in English).
* Onesimos and Onesiforos: The unfortunate donkey association that has plagued these names is from the word "onos" (ass). In fact the names' true etymology is from "pnesis" meaning "profit, benefit, advantage".
*Kalliopos" suffers the same unfortunate association as the otherwise beautiful name Kalliope : "kalo" (good) and "ope" (hole). However the ultimate etymology for both names is from "kalo" (good) and "ops" (voice). But this certainly not generally recognized, and the names have always been subject to vicious wordplay. For example, the slang word for toilet in Greek is "Kalliope " (as it is John in English).
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Well, the "Anti-" part is unambiguous.
"-ope" however is quite debatable. It can be either from:
1. "ope" meaning "hole"
2. "ope" meaning
- of Place: "by which or what way, in which or what direction"
- of a Manner: "in what way, how, as"
- with other Particles: "in what possible direction or manner" (Liddel & Scott )
3. "ops" meaning "a poeting noun denoting voice, whether in speaking, shouting, lamenting" (Liddel & Scott )
4. "opsis" meaning "face", as you mention.
I would (arbitrarily, granted) count out 1 and 3. I would tend to go for 4 (which is the definition you have posted) although I cannot exclude 3 either (which would make Antiope synonymous to "nonconformist").
Sorry for being incoherent, its a Monday morning...
"-ope" however is quite debatable. It can be either from:
1. "ope" meaning "hole"
2. "ope" meaning
- of Place: "by which or what way, in which or what direction"
- of a Manner: "in what way, how, as"
- with other Particles: "in what possible direction or manner" (Liddel & Scott )
3. "ops" meaning "a poeting noun denoting voice, whether in speaking, shouting, lamenting" (Liddel & Scott )
4. "opsis" meaning "face", as you mention.
I would (arbitrarily, granted) count out 1 and 3. I would tend to go for 4 (which is the definition you have posted) although I cannot exclude 3 either (which would make Antiope synonymous to "nonconformist").
Sorry for being incoherent, its a Monday morning...
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