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in reply to a message by Libra Starshine XoX
I knew an Angel once. Her name was really Dom-Angelique, but she went by Angel. She was a physically unattractive young woman who stayed a virgin until she thirty, due to lack of interest, before then, on the part of any male to have sexual intercourse with her. Personality-wise, she seemed intelligent enough, and competent. She was a little aggressive in her manner. She knew how to stand up for herself. She expressed, to me, a romantic interest in my best friend, whom I knew was way out of her league, and whom I knew would never have an interest in her, and for that reason, I tried to gently discourage her interest in him. She was okay. I liked her. I hated the fact that she wore patchouli, because I absolutely can't stand the smell, and that made it uncomfortable for me to be around her. One of my close friends absolutely couldn't stand her and I could never figure out why.
This is pretty OT, but my point is, she wasn't a frickin angel. Nobody is. That's why I find the name Angel to sickening. I don't mind Angela or Angelique or Angelica but Angel is puke-provoking. Sure, your little baby girl looks like an angel to you, but she isn't going to grow up to be an angel, with a long white gown and a big halo on her head, and live in heaven and be perfect and be better than mere mortals, so don't freaking name her Angel!
People complain about maybe Grace being a klutz and Verity being a liar and Chastity being a slut and Charity being selfish, but really, what could be worse than Angel? It denotes perfection, and who is perfect?
Yes, having a child is usually, for most people, an emotionally overwhelming event, but that's only for you. Your child is going to grow up to be a person like every other person, liked by some, disliked by some, with virtues and talents but also with faults and imperfections, so don't give her name that is going to tell everyone she meets "Omigod I'm so perfect and beautiful I'm an ANGEL!"
It makes me want to puke. It's fluffy and silly. Just cut to the chase and name her God. At least God isn't fluffy and silly.
This is pretty OT, but my point is, she wasn't a frickin angel. Nobody is. That's why I find the name Angel to sickening. I don't mind Angela or Angelique or Angelica but Angel is puke-provoking. Sure, your little baby girl looks like an angel to you, but she isn't going to grow up to be an angel, with a long white gown and a big halo on her head, and live in heaven and be perfect and be better than mere mortals, so don't freaking name her Angel!
People complain about maybe Grace being a klutz and Verity being a liar and Chastity being a slut and Charity being selfish, but really, what could be worse than Angel? It denotes perfection, and who is perfect?
Yes, having a child is usually, for most people, an emotionally overwhelming event, but that's only for you. Your child is going to grow up to be a person like every other person, liked by some, disliked by some, with virtues and talents but also with faults and imperfections, so don't give her name that is going to tell everyone she meets "Omigod I'm so perfect and beautiful I'm an ANGEL!"
It makes me want to puke. It's fluffy and silly. Just cut to the chase and name her God. At least God isn't fluffy and silly.
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Patchouli is nasty . I hate that stuff.
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Ugh, me too!
I had a teacher who wore it, and I wouldn't have minded so much if she hadn't been such a b*tch, but now the smell just makes me think of her.
I had a teacher who wore it, and I wouldn't have minded so much if she hadn't been such a b*tch, but now the smell just makes me think of her.
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Huge ditto.
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also dead...
You have to be dead before you can be an angel.
It makes me wonder what the family would have done for a name if Grandpa hadn't been there.
To me Angel is almost an afterthought of a name. The kind of name the news media or the police or the social workers give an abandoned and/or dead baby that they don't know the identity of. Baby Angel, Angel Doe, Angel Grace, that kind of thing.
You have to be dead before you can be an angel.
It makes me wonder what the family would have done for a name if Grandpa hadn't been there.
To me Angel is almost an afterthought of a name. The kind of name the news media or the police or the social workers give an abandoned and/or dead baby that they don't know the identity of. Baby Angel, Angel Doe, Angel Grace, that kind of thing.
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Angels aren't necessarily good and sweet, there are some pretty mean angels in the Bible. So it's not like they are all perfect, in a long white gown and better than mere mortals. I don't think it denotes perfection at all.
I personally think it's okay as a name. I know one and it works on her.
I always think it's weird when people say someone is 'out of their league', especially for physical reasons. There are so many attractive people out there who have unattractive partners. Maybe you meant because of her looks and personality.
I personally think it's okay as a name. I know one and it works on her.
I always think it's weird when people say someone is 'out of their league', especially for physical reasons. There are so many attractive people out there who have unattractive partners. Maybe you meant because of her looks and personality.
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You are knowledgeable enough to know that there are mean angels in the Bible, but most people, when they hear the word "angel", think of white gowns, halos, and perfection. This is the reason that the phrases "You're an angel", and "He's been an angel" are common, and that they mean "You're wonderful\generous\kind" and "He behaved perfectly." And I really don't think that anyone, when giving the name Angel, is thinking of any of the mean angels in the Bible, or that most people, upon hearing the name Angel, would think of them. I think that most people aren't even aware of them.
As far as my use of "out of her league", I did mean that based purely upon physical reasons. It's been my observation that most people date and marry people who are on a par with them physically, though, of course, there are exceptions. I've known a few people who never dated because they wanted a "ten", so to speak, and didn't realize or wouldn't accept the fact that they themselves were "threes" at best and were highly unlikely to get a "ten." I know it's brutal, and I don't like it, but that's the way it is. Angel was one of those who was a three and wanted a ten. Also, I knew my best friend, who was an average looking man, and I knew some of the women he had had relationships with and shown interest in, I knew that he could get a more attractive woman than Angel, and, most importantly, I knew that looks did matter to him greatly.
I remember that when Angel first expressed interest in my friend, I stressed the fact that he was a heavy smoker, because I knew that she hated smoking and being around smoke. When I told my friend that I had done this, he said, "Thank you."
As far as my use of "out of her league", I did mean that based purely upon physical reasons. It's been my observation that most people date and marry people who are on a par with them physically, though, of course, there are exceptions. I've known a few people who never dated because they wanted a "ten", so to speak, and didn't realize or wouldn't accept the fact that they themselves were "threes" at best and were highly unlikely to get a "ten." I know it's brutal, and I don't like it, but that's the way it is. Angel was one of those who was a three and wanted a ten. Also, I knew my best friend, who was an average looking man, and I knew some of the women he had had relationships with and shown interest in, I knew that he could get a more attractive woman than Angel, and, most importantly, I knew that looks did matter to him greatly.
I remember that when Angel first expressed interest in my friend, I stressed the fact that he was a heavy smoker, because I knew that she hated smoking and being around smoke. When I told my friend that I had done this, he said, "Thank you."
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