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Well, in complete contrast to my dumb rantings about Cecilia...
There's a girl in the program I'm at named Angel. She says her granddad looked at her when she was born and said she was an angel and that's why she has this name. Damn, I really like it, I like it on her, and I like the meaning. She's a nice girl and all but not particularly remarkable, but every time I say her name I feel this weird glowiness in my heart. I feel like I'm talking about or to a really cherishable, cherished person. "Angel is in my quartet," I say, and I think of angels.
Definitely didn't expect to like this name so much. Might change how I think about names in general.
Um, I invite your comments and ideas. ? I want to do some brainstorming - what might naming look like if you just named your kid a NOUN in your language, not a wordname but a NOUN about how great they are??? - but I've really got to go to bed.
Our house-mom is named Priscilla. She's the nicest person on planet earth, very frank and adaptable and mommish. She's the first Priscilla I've met and she's definitely doing the name good.
There's a girl in the program I'm at named Angel. She says her granddad looked at her when she was born and said she was an angel and that's why she has this name. Damn, I really like it, I like it on her, and I like the meaning. She's a nice girl and all but not particularly remarkable, but every time I say her name I feel this weird glowiness in my heart. I feel like I'm talking about or to a really cherishable, cherished person. "Angel is in my quartet," I say, and I think of angels.
Definitely didn't expect to like this name so much. Might change how I think about names in general.
Um, I invite your comments and ideas. ? I want to do some brainstorming - what might naming look like if you just named your kid a NOUN in your language, not a wordname but a NOUN about how great they are??? - but I've really got to go to bed.
Our house-mom is named Priscilla. She's the nicest person on planet earth, very frank and adaptable and mommish. She's the first Priscilla I've met and she's definitely doing the name good.
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Angel is sort of stripperish to me-I prefer Angela, Angelica, etc. Also, since Angel is a noun that is used as a name, I don't see how it's different from other word names.
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I like Angel. I know a girl who was named Angel because the nurse at the hospital said she was born on a special holy day or something, and since her parents didn't have a name picked out they went with it.
Names if they were all nouns...
Victor would probably still be a name
Maybe animals like Wolf, Deer, Impala, Fox, Hawk, Eagle, Falcon, Bird, etc.
Tree, Herb, Flower, all plant names
Heart
Sword
Compass
Sky, Cloud, Lake, River, Rain
Grasshopper, Cricket, Butterfly, Dragonfly
Light, Dark, Red, Blue, color names
Samurai, Knight
Names if they were all nouns...
Victor would probably still be a name
Maybe animals like Wolf, Deer, Impala, Fox, Hawk, Eagle, Falcon, Bird, etc.
Tree, Herb, Flower, all plant names
Heart
Sword
Compass
Sky, Cloud, Lake, River, Rain
Grasshopper, Cricket, Butterfly, Dragonfly
Light, Dark, Red, Blue, color names
Samurai, Knight
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Priscilla is great, all fresh and sparkling.
The only Angel I have ever known was male and Spanish and hated his name, but I kind of liked it; he was a smart, sarcastic kind of dude but he had bookshelves full of quietly thoughtful books, and he sent money home to his family, so maybe there were signs of sekrit angelic qualities. I don't think I'd use an obvious noun name myself* but I don't actually mind names like Precious and Comfort, or at least the spirit in which they're given.
* okay, I'm sometimes tempted by Awen.
The only Angel I have ever known was male and Spanish and hated his name, but I kind of liked it; he was a smart, sarcastic kind of dude but he had bookshelves full of quietly thoughtful books, and he sent money home to his family, so maybe there were signs of sekrit angelic qualities. I don't think I'd use an obvious noun name myself* but I don't actually mind names like Precious and Comfort, or at least the spirit in which they're given.
* okay, I'm sometimes tempted by Awen.
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Want to know something funny? Every Angel I have encountered has been sexually promiscuous, or has at least acted like it. I know there are plenty of Angels who don't act that way, but again, I just thought it was funny.
As a name in and of itself? It's okay. Definitely not something that I would use, but it's not in the "worst" pile. Priscilla is lovely.
As a name in and of itself? It's okay. Definitely not something that I would use, but it's not in the "worst" pile. Priscilla is lovely.
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My aunt always said that little kids named Angel were the worst-behaved ones.
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Honestly, I find it a bit tacky and hokey.
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Ha. Angel. I actually like it as a male's name. Probably due to growing up with Buffy the Vampire Slayer--even though I didn't like the character Angel. Ah well. I think it's cool on a guy but I would never name my son that.
I've known a few female Angels and they have been unremarkable. When I was young I loved the twinset Angel and Star. Yeah, I was young. Now I feel Angel has a tacky and simplistic feel to it even though I still kinda sorta maybe like it. I can never decide. I'm sure if I met an Angel I liked I would really warm up to it. That said, I like the way it looks and it has a pleasant sound. Angels can be nice but there are plenty of warrior angels as well. And Satan was an angel so there you go.
I had a boss named Priscilla. Previously I liked the name for frilly reasons. I would never use it, not even in a story, but I didn't completely hate it. After meeting her, I've grown to really like it. She was so sweet, warm, and motherly but had this totally snarky mouthy side and it was great. It really made me see the dimensions that Priscilla could provide. The Presley connotation is hard for me to overcome. I like alliteration.
I've known a few female Angels and they have been unremarkable. When I was young I loved the twinset Angel and Star. Yeah, I was young. Now I feel Angel has a tacky and simplistic feel to it even though I still kinda sorta maybe like it. I can never decide. I'm sure if I met an Angel I liked I would really warm up to it. That said, I like the way it looks and it has a pleasant sound. Angels can be nice but there are plenty of warrior angels as well. And Satan was an angel so there you go.
I had a boss named Priscilla. Previously I liked the name for frilly reasons. I would never use it, not even in a story, but I didn't completely hate it. After meeting her, I've grown to really like it. She was so sweet, warm, and motherly but had this totally snarky mouthy side and it was great. It really made me see the dimensions that Priscilla could provide. The Presley connotation is hard for me to overcome. I like alliteration.
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Priscilla is very pretty. I knew one very slightly in school. She was hearing impaired and shy and not in good health but everybody liked her.
Angel is not terrible but definitely downmarket. I would rather see Angela or Angelina used instead.
Angel is not terrible but definitely downmarket. I would rather see Angela or Angelina used instead.
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I knew an Angel once. Her name was really Dom-Angelique, but she went by Angel. She was a physically unattractive young woman who stayed a virgin until she thirty, due to lack of interest, before then, on the part of any male to have sexual intercourse with her. Personality-wise, she seemed intelligent enough, and competent. She was a little aggressive in her manner. She knew how to stand up for herself. She expressed, to me, a romantic interest in my best friend, whom I knew was way out of her league, and whom I knew would never have an interest in her, and for that reason, I tried to gently discourage her interest in him. She was okay. I liked her. I hated the fact that she wore patchouli, because I absolutely can't stand the smell, and that made it uncomfortable for me to be around her. One of my close friends absolutely couldn't stand her and I could never figure out why.
This is pretty OT, but my point is, she wasn't a frickin angel. Nobody is. That's why I find the name Angel to sickening. I don't mind Angela or Angelique or Angelica but Angel is puke-provoking. Sure, your little baby girl looks like an angel to you, but she isn't going to grow up to be an angel, with a long white gown and a big halo on her head, and live in heaven and be perfect and be better than mere mortals, so don't freaking name her Angel!
People complain about maybe Grace being a klutz and Verity being a liar and Chastity being a slut and Charity being selfish, but really, what could be worse than Angel? It denotes perfection, and who is perfect?
Yes, having a child is usually, for most people, an emotionally overwhelming event, but that's only for you. Your child is going to grow up to be a person like every other person, liked by some, disliked by some, with virtues and talents but also with faults and imperfections, so don't give her name that is going to tell everyone she meets "Omigod I'm so perfect and beautiful I'm an ANGEL!"
It makes me want to puke. It's fluffy and silly. Just cut to the chase and name her God. At least God isn't fluffy and silly.
This is pretty OT, but my point is, she wasn't a frickin angel. Nobody is. That's why I find the name Angel to sickening. I don't mind Angela or Angelique or Angelica but Angel is puke-provoking. Sure, your little baby girl looks like an angel to you, but she isn't going to grow up to be an angel, with a long white gown and a big halo on her head, and live in heaven and be perfect and be better than mere mortals, so don't freaking name her Angel!
People complain about maybe Grace being a klutz and Verity being a liar and Chastity being a slut and Charity being selfish, but really, what could be worse than Angel? It denotes perfection, and who is perfect?
Yes, having a child is usually, for most people, an emotionally overwhelming event, but that's only for you. Your child is going to grow up to be a person like every other person, liked by some, disliked by some, with virtues and talents but also with faults and imperfections, so don't give her name that is going to tell everyone she meets "Omigod I'm so perfect and beautiful I'm an ANGEL!"
It makes me want to puke. It's fluffy and silly. Just cut to the chase and name her God. At least God isn't fluffy and silly.
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Patchouli is nasty . I hate that stuff.
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Ugh, me too!
I had a teacher who wore it, and I wouldn't have minded so much if she hadn't been such a b*tch, but now the smell just makes me think of her.
I had a teacher who wore it, and I wouldn't have minded so much if she hadn't been such a b*tch, but now the smell just makes me think of her.
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Huge ditto.
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also dead...
You have to be dead before you can be an angel.
It makes me wonder what the family would have done for a name if Grandpa hadn't been there.
To me Angel is almost an afterthought of a name. The kind of name the news media or the police or the social workers give an abandoned and/or dead baby that they don't know the identity of. Baby Angel, Angel Doe, Angel Grace, that kind of thing.
You have to be dead before you can be an angel.
It makes me wonder what the family would have done for a name if Grandpa hadn't been there.
To me Angel is almost an afterthought of a name. The kind of name the news media or the police or the social workers give an abandoned and/or dead baby that they don't know the identity of. Baby Angel, Angel Doe, Angel Grace, that kind of thing.
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Angels aren't necessarily good and sweet, there are some pretty mean angels in the Bible. So it's not like they are all perfect, in a long white gown and better than mere mortals. I don't think it denotes perfection at all.
I personally think it's okay as a name. I know one and it works on her.
I always think it's weird when people say someone is 'out of their league', especially for physical reasons. There are so many attractive people out there who have unattractive partners. Maybe you meant because of her looks and personality.
I personally think it's okay as a name. I know one and it works on her.
I always think it's weird when people say someone is 'out of their league', especially for physical reasons. There are so many attractive people out there who have unattractive partners. Maybe you meant because of her looks and personality.
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You are knowledgeable enough to know that there are mean angels in the Bible, but most people, when they hear the word "angel", think of white gowns, halos, and perfection. This is the reason that the phrases "You're an angel", and "He's been an angel" are common, and that they mean "You're wonderful\generous\kind" and "He behaved perfectly." And I really don't think that anyone, when giving the name Angel, is thinking of any of the mean angels in the Bible, or that most people, upon hearing the name Angel, would think of them. I think that most people aren't even aware of them.
As far as my use of "out of her league", I did mean that based purely upon physical reasons. It's been my observation that most people date and marry people who are on a par with them physically, though, of course, there are exceptions. I've known a few people who never dated because they wanted a "ten", so to speak, and didn't realize or wouldn't accept the fact that they themselves were "threes" at best and were highly unlikely to get a "ten." I know it's brutal, and I don't like it, but that's the way it is. Angel was one of those who was a three and wanted a ten. Also, I knew my best friend, who was an average looking man, and I knew some of the women he had had relationships with and shown interest in, I knew that he could get a more attractive woman than Angel, and, most importantly, I knew that looks did matter to him greatly.
I remember that when Angel first expressed interest in my friend, I stressed the fact that he was a heavy smoker, because I knew that she hated smoking and being around smoke. When I told my friend that I had done this, he said, "Thank you."
As far as my use of "out of her league", I did mean that based purely upon physical reasons. It's been my observation that most people date and marry people who are on a par with them physically, though, of course, there are exceptions. I've known a few people who never dated because they wanted a "ten", so to speak, and didn't realize or wouldn't accept the fact that they themselves were "threes" at best and were highly unlikely to get a "ten." I know it's brutal, and I don't like it, but that's the way it is. Angel was one of those who was a three and wanted a ten. Also, I knew my best friend, who was an average looking man, and I knew some of the women he had had relationships with and shown interest in, I knew that he could get a more attractive woman than Angel, and, most importantly, I knew that looks did matter to him greatly.
I remember that when Angel first expressed interest in my friend, I stressed the fact that he was a heavy smoker, because I knew that she hated smoking and being around smoke. When I told my friend that I had done this, he said, "Thank you."
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Everybody does that here
Most names used here (Israel) by secular families are either word names, or Biblical names whose meaning is obvious because they are composed of common words. There are plenty of nature names, or names meaning things like "my light" or "my song" or "you are mine" or "pleasantness". From my experience, the ones you notice like you described are usually the rarer or made-up names.
So yeah, meaning names are very, very big here ("I named my daughter Gift because she is one to me") and sometimes that is what helps them grow on me (like the aforementioned Gift - Matan is a boy's name! or things like Liat - I don't like the sound much, but when you break it into words it is suddenly lovely). When you think of most names here, you can tell how much the parents loved their child.
On the other side of the coin, there is the story of the girl named "Disappointment" (Achzava), I think because her parents wanted a boy. Ugh. Stupid parents.
Most names used here (Israel) by secular families are either word names, or Biblical names whose meaning is obvious because they are composed of common words. There are plenty of nature names, or names meaning things like "my light" or "my song" or "you are mine" or "pleasantness". From my experience, the ones you notice like you described are usually the rarer or made-up names.
So yeah, meaning names are very, very big here ("I named my daughter Gift because she is one to me") and sometimes that is what helps them grow on me (like the aforementioned Gift - Matan is a boy's name! or things like Liat - I don't like the sound much, but when you break it into words it is suddenly lovely). When you think of most names here, you can tell how much the parents loved their child.
On the other side of the coin, there is the story of the girl named "Disappointment" (Achzava), I think because her parents wanted a boy. Ugh. Stupid parents.
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Ha. Very interesting! I feel like this is how names started off.
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Ha, well, most of the Biblical ones definitely did... and have their etymologies written right there in the Bible :)
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