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in reply to a message by Becca
I think that there should be a complete name to fall back on. It looks more professional and gives the child the option of the nickname, the full name, or maybe a different nickname to use in the future.
Plus there are many nicknames which can't be tied to just one name and therefore can't be pinpointed to one meaning. Like Maddy, off your list. Would you take the meaning of Madeline? Matilda? Maude? Madison? Something else? A name like Alex is pretty straightforward at least. And since Abbey is a word in itself, you could just claim its meaning is after the word and not the name Abigail. Plus some nicknames won't age well. Like I think an adult Charlie would be a bit silly.
Furthermore, it will often be assumed their name is a nickname. If your name is Jim, people are all going to assume it's short for James, and you'll always have to correct them. It would be annoying, I'm sure.
Anyway, that's just my opinion. You could be doing much worse in naming your child than just giving them a nickname for a full name. At least it's spelled right!
Plus there are many nicknames which can't be tied to just one name and therefore can't be pinpointed to one meaning. Like Maddy, off your list. Would you take the meaning of Madeline? Matilda? Maude? Madison? Something else? A name like Alex is pretty straightforward at least. And since Abbey is a word in itself, you could just claim its meaning is after the word and not the name Abigail. Plus some nicknames won't age well. Like I think an adult Charlie would be a bit silly.
Furthermore, it will often be assumed their name is a nickname. If your name is Jim, people are all going to assume it's short for James, and you'll always have to correct them. It would be annoying, I'm sure.
Anyway, that's just my opinion. You could be doing much worse in naming your child than just giving them a nickname for a full name. At least it's spelled right!
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It will often be assumed their name is a nickname. If your name is Jim, people are all going to assume it's short for James, and you'll always have to correct them.
That's interesting because where I'm from it's the exact opposite. If someone is called Jim no one would think it wasn't his full name. People would assume it was his full name and they would probably be very surprised if it turned out that this Jim's full name was James. I guess the full names and their nicknames have been "lost in translation". I'm sure there are many, many that don't realise that names like Jack and Bill were originally nicknames.
That's interesting because where I'm from it's the exact opposite. If someone is called Jim no one would think it wasn't his full name. People would assume it was his full name and they would probably be very surprised if it turned out that this Jim's full name was James. I guess the full names and their nicknames have been "lost in translation". I'm sure there are many, many that don't realise that names like Jack and Bill were originally nicknames.
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"ummm...no"? That's pretty rude.
I'm not just making it up. Do you even know where I'm from? I started the whole post with That's interesting because where I'm from it's the exact opposite
Your reply is pretty narrrow-minded. Jim and James are not seeen as the same name here and most people would not know it's a nickname for James. And then you can say that I'm wrong as many times as you like, it's still the way it is.
I'm not just making it up. Do you even know where I'm from? I started the whole post with That's interesting because where I'm from it's the exact opposite
Your reply is pretty narrrow-minded. Jim and James are not seeen as the same name here and most people would not know it's a nickname for James. And then you can say that I'm wrong as many times as you like, it's still the way it is.
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Where are you from?
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I'm from Sweden.
Maybe it's just me but I usually look at a poster's profile before replying if I know that what we are discussing could be something that varies from country to country (or culture.)
I think it was pretty clear that I'm from a country where nicknames and the original full names are no longer associated with each other and if she then replies by telling me that I'm wrong I think she either didn't really read my reply or just doesn't acknowledge that things could be different elsewhere.
Or maybe I'm overreacting...
Maybe it's just me but I usually look at a poster's profile before replying if I know that what we are discussing could be something that varies from country to country (or culture.)
I think it was pretty clear that I'm from a country where nicknames and the original full names are no longer associated with each other and if she then replies by telling me that I'm wrong I think she either didn't really read my reply or just doesn't acknowledge that things could be different elsewhere.
Or maybe I'm overreacting...
This message was edited 5/29/2009, 7:34 AM
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Okay, so that wasn't the best opening on my part. I apologize.
I do feel that you are overreacting. To say that I am narrow-minded, intolerant and disrespectful other culture just because I think that most people would recognize a nickname is going a bit far. "Where I'm from . . ." doesn't necessarily indicate another culture (You could just be from Wisconsin or something) so I didn't feel the need to check. A simple "That's how it is in Sweden" would have been enough and I would have accepted that.
I do feel that you are overreacting. To say that I am narrow-minded, intolerant and disrespectful other culture just because I think that most people would recognize a nickname is going a bit far. "Where I'm from . . ." doesn't necessarily indicate another culture (You could just be from Wisconsin or something) so I didn't feel the need to check. A simple "That's how it is in Sweden" would have been enough and I would have accepted that.
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It's not another culture, but things do vary from state to state, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin could be totally different in that respect. I know that Upstate New York and the Raleigh area of North Carolina are totally different with names, though I wouldn't say that the culture is different at all.
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I never said you where intolerant or disrespectful of other cultures. But, yeah, I did call you narrow-minded which probably was a bit of an overreaction and not the best way to phrase what I wanted to say.
I owe you an apology. I'm sorry. Truce? :)
I owe you an apology. I'm sorry. Truce? :)
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:)
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I work with a woman named Connie and she complained that people always assume her full name is Constance, which it isn't. That's pretty common where I live.
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Maybe it's just me then :)
I would always assume someone being called Matt is actually named Matthew, etc.
I don't agree with you about Bill because that's such a common nickname and a not so common full name, but I do agree with you about Jack. I had to explain to my husband how Jack comes from John when I told him I like John nn Jack. :)
I would always assume someone being called Matt is actually named Matthew, etc.
I don't agree with you about Bill because that's such a common nickname and a not so common full name, but I do agree with you about Jack. I had to explain to my husband how Jack comes from John when I told him I like John nn Jack. :)
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At least in an English-speaking context, I'd assume too Matt is Matthew and so forth. I'm aware that in some cultures, English nicknames have been "borrowed" as full names. I think this is what CN was referring to.
I once met a Dutch guy named Tommy and it's true it sounds a bit silly to me as a full name. But he was a total jerk, which doesn't help.
I once met a Dutch guy named Tommy and it's true it sounds a bit silly to me as a full name. But he was a total jerk, which doesn't help.
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No I would assume it too
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That's not quite what I was talking about
I was talking more about people being named things like Makayla or Mykynzie. Really misspelled names, not variant spellings of names that have been in use for years and are accepted.
I was talking more about people being named things like Makayla or Mykynzie. Really misspelled names, not variant spellings of names that have been in use for years and are accepted.
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