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I did some quick data gathering from our lists. For each gender, I set both lists next to each other, determined the difference in ratings and the cumulative total from the ratings. I then made lists of names that have the lowest average rating and the names we agreed on the rating for the most (that particular one isn’t particularly helpful, but I did it just for fun). Here goes!
BOYS:
1 Eoin 1 Rafael
2 Caspian 2 Caspian
3 Mathias 3 Peregrine “Pippin”
4 Hugo 4 Evander
5 Patrick 5 Edmund
6 Peregrine “Pippin” 6 Hugo
7 Jonas 7 Benjamin “Ben”
8 Evander 8 Mathias
9 Rory 9 Anthony
10 Diarmad 10 Jonas
11 Rafael 11 Patrick
12 Edmund 12 Eoin
13 Benjamin “Ben” 13 Diarmad
14 Anthony 14 Rory
Key: | Name | Difference In Rating [ Your Rating / My Rating ] Total of 2 Rankings |
Eoin 11 [1 / 12] 13
Caspian 0 [2 / 2] 4
Mathias 5 [3 / 8] 11
Hugo 2 [4 / 6] 10
Patrick 6 [5 / 11] 16
Peregrine “Pippin” 3 [6 / 3] 9
Jonas 3 [7 / 10] 17
Evander 4 [8 / 4] 12
Rory 5 [9 / 14] 23
Diarmad 3 [10 / 13] 23
Rafael 10 [11 / 1] 12
Edmund 7 [12 / 5] 17
Benjamin “Ben” 6 [13 / 7] 20
Anthony 5 [14 / 9] 23
Top 5 Overall Preferred: (Average rating in parentheses.)
1. Caspian (2)
2. Peregrine “Pippin” (4.5)
3. Hugo (5)
4. Mathias (5.5)
5. Evander / Rafael (6)
Top 5 Consensus Picks: (Rating difference in brackets. Average rating in parentheses.)
1. Caspian [0] (2)
2. Hugo [2] (5)
3. Jonas [3] (8.5) / Diarmad [3] (11.5)
4. Evander [4] (6)
5. Mathias [5] (5.5) / Rory [5] (11.5) / Anthony [5] (11.5)
GIRLS:
1 Sinéad 1 Silvie
2 Tempest 2 Thea
3 Catriona 3 Viola
4 Niamh 4 Maeve
5 Kathleen 5 Matilda “Tilda”
6 Lyra 6 Guinevere “Gwen”
7 Bethan 7 Fiona
8 Maeve 8 Catriona
9 Guinevere “Gwen” 9 Sinéad
10 Thea 10 Kathleen
11 Nora 11 Lucy
12 Fiona 12 Bethan
13 Luna 13 Nora
14 Viola 14 Lyra
15 Matilda “Tilda” 15 Diana
16 Minerva 16 Tempest
17 Lucy 17 Niamh
18 Diana 18 Minerva
19 Silvie 19 Luna
Key: | Name | Difference In Rating [ Your Rating / My Rating ] Total of 2 Rankings |
Sinéad 8 [1 / 9] 10
Tempest 14 [2 / 16] 18
Catriona 5 [3 / 8] 11
Niamh 13 [4 / 17] 21
Kathleen 5 [5 / 10] 15
Lyra 8 [6 / 14] 20
Bethan 5 [7 / 12] 19
Maeve 4 [8 / 4] 12
Guinevere “Gwen” 3 [9 / 6] 15
Thea 8 [10 / 2] 12
Nora 2 [11 / 13] 24
Fiona 5 [12 / 7] 19
Luna 6 [13 / 19] 32
Viola 11 [14 / 3] 17
Matilda “Tilda” 10 [15 / 5] 20
Minerva 2 [16 / 18] 34
Lucy 6 [17 / 11] 28
Diana 3 [18 / 15] 33
Silvie 8 [19 / 1] 20
Top 5 Overall Preferred: (Average rating in parentheses.)
1. Sinéad (5)
2. Catriona (5.5)
3. Maeve / Thea (6)
4. Kathleen / Guinevere “Gwen” (7.5)
5. Viola (8.5)
Top 5 Consensus Picks: (Rating difference in brackets. Average rating in parentheses.)
1. Minerva [2] (17) / Nora [2] (12)
2. Diana [3] (16.5) / Guinevere “Gwen” [3] (7.5)
3. Maeve [4] (6)
4. Catriona [5] (5.5) / Kathleen [5] (7.5) / Bethan [5] (9.5) / Fiona [5] (9.5)
5. Luna [6] (16) / Lucy [6] (14)
So there’s that. Other than Caspian, which had the highest average and the highest agreement, most of our top names we don’t agree on much. I’m pretty happy with the top overall preferred names though and would be happy to narrow down to those if you would like. Also, I was wondering what your ideas were for Ruth? I'm open to using it however because it's an honoring name, so it's really your preference there.
In terms of genders we originally said we would prefer 2 or 3 children and it seems we should have at least 1 of each gender (it would seem a bit of a waste to spend all this time on names of two genders and use 1 gender). Since we have more girls options we could go with 2 girls, 1 boy, or, since we have slightly more consensus with boys names we could go with 2 boys, 1 girl. Or, of course, we could stick with 2 children or go overboard and name 4 or more. I don’t have much of a preference. Do you?
BOYS:
1 Eoin 1 Rafael
2 Caspian 2 Caspian
3 Mathias 3 Peregrine “Pippin”
4 Hugo 4 Evander
5 Patrick 5 Edmund
6 Peregrine “Pippin” 6 Hugo
7 Jonas 7 Benjamin “Ben”
8 Evander 8 Mathias
9 Rory 9 Anthony
10 Diarmad 10 Jonas
11 Rafael 11 Patrick
12 Edmund 12 Eoin
13 Benjamin “Ben” 13 Diarmad
14 Anthony 14 Rory
Key: | Name | Difference In Rating [ Your Rating / My Rating ] Total of 2 Rankings |
Eoin 11 [1 / 12] 13
Caspian 0 [2 / 2] 4
Mathias 5 [3 / 8] 11
Hugo 2 [4 / 6] 10
Patrick 6 [5 / 11] 16
Peregrine “Pippin” 3 [6 / 3] 9
Jonas 3 [7 / 10] 17
Evander 4 [8 / 4] 12
Rory 5 [9 / 14] 23
Diarmad 3 [10 / 13] 23
Rafael 10 [11 / 1] 12
Edmund 7 [12 / 5] 17
Benjamin “Ben” 6 [13 / 7] 20
Anthony 5 [14 / 9] 23
Top 5 Overall Preferred: (Average rating in parentheses.)
1. Caspian (2)
2. Peregrine “Pippin” (4.5)
3. Hugo (5)
4. Mathias (5.5)
5. Evander / Rafael (6)
Top 5 Consensus Picks: (Rating difference in brackets. Average rating in parentheses.)
1. Caspian [0] (2)
2. Hugo [2] (5)
3. Jonas [3] (8.5) / Diarmad [3] (11.5)
4. Evander [4] (6)
5. Mathias [5] (5.5) / Rory [5] (11.5) / Anthony [5] (11.5)
GIRLS:
1 Sinéad 1 Silvie
2 Tempest 2 Thea
3 Catriona 3 Viola
4 Niamh 4 Maeve
5 Kathleen 5 Matilda “Tilda”
6 Lyra 6 Guinevere “Gwen”
7 Bethan 7 Fiona
8 Maeve 8 Catriona
9 Guinevere “Gwen” 9 Sinéad
10 Thea 10 Kathleen
11 Nora 11 Lucy
12 Fiona 12 Bethan
13 Luna 13 Nora
14 Viola 14 Lyra
15 Matilda “Tilda” 15 Diana
16 Minerva 16 Tempest
17 Lucy 17 Niamh
18 Diana 18 Minerva
19 Silvie 19 Luna
Key: | Name | Difference In Rating [ Your Rating / My Rating ] Total of 2 Rankings |
Sinéad 8 [1 / 9] 10
Tempest 14 [2 / 16] 18
Catriona 5 [3 / 8] 11
Niamh 13 [4 / 17] 21
Kathleen 5 [5 / 10] 15
Lyra 8 [6 / 14] 20
Bethan 5 [7 / 12] 19
Maeve 4 [8 / 4] 12
Guinevere “Gwen” 3 [9 / 6] 15
Thea 8 [10 / 2] 12
Nora 2 [11 / 13] 24
Fiona 5 [12 / 7] 19
Luna 6 [13 / 19] 32
Viola 11 [14 / 3] 17
Matilda “Tilda” 10 [15 / 5] 20
Minerva 2 [16 / 18] 34
Lucy 6 [17 / 11] 28
Diana 3 [18 / 15] 33
Silvie 8 [19 / 1] 20
Top 5 Overall Preferred: (Average rating in parentheses.)
1. Sinéad (5)
2. Catriona (5.5)
3. Maeve / Thea (6)
4. Kathleen / Guinevere “Gwen” (7.5)
5. Viola (8.5)
Top 5 Consensus Picks: (Rating difference in brackets. Average rating in parentheses.)
1. Minerva [2] (17) / Nora [2] (12)
2. Diana [3] (16.5) / Guinevere “Gwen” [3] (7.5)
3. Maeve [4] (6)
4. Catriona [5] (5.5) / Kathleen [5] (7.5) / Bethan [5] (9.5) / Fiona [5] (9.5)
5. Luna [6] (16) / Lucy [6] (14)
So there’s that. Other than Caspian, which had the highest average and the highest agreement, most of our top names we don’t agree on much. I’m pretty happy with the top overall preferred names though and would be happy to narrow down to those if you would like. Also, I was wondering what your ideas were for Ruth? I'm open to using it however because it's an honoring name, so it's really your preference there.
In terms of genders we originally said we would prefer 2 or 3 children and it seems we should have at least 1 of each gender (it would seem a bit of a waste to spend all this time on names of two genders and use 1 gender). Since we have more girls options we could go with 2 girls, 1 boy, or, since we have slightly more consensus with boys names we could go with 2 boys, 1 girl. Or, of course, we could stick with 2 children or go overboard and name 4 or more. I don’t have much of a preference. Do you?
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Wow, that’s a lot! I’m also happy with the top 5 overall preferred lists, we just have to pick which ones we’d most likely use. As for Ruth, I’d likely use it more as a middle name. I’m okay with two boys and one girl, as that way it might be easier to choose names. Or we could just go with two, one of each. Whichever you prefer!
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So I wasn’t quite sure what to do and I turned to statistics again. Using the positions of the overall preferred names on our original lists, I created new lists and found the rankings by average and my difference again. (You don’t actually need to read this. It’s just my thought process.)
Top 5 Overall Preferred:
1. Caspian
2. Peregrine “Pippin”
3. Hugo
4. Mathias
5. Evander / Rafael
1 Caspian 1 Rafael
2 Mathias 2 Caspian
3 Hugo 3 Peregrine “Pippin”
4 Peregrine “Pippin” 4 Evander
5 Evander 5 Hugo
6 Rafael 6 Mathias
Caspian 1 [1 / 2] 3
Mathias 4 [2 / 6] 8
Hugo 2 [3 / 5] 8
Peregrine “Pippin” 1 [4 / 3] 7
Evander 1 [5 / 4] 9
Rafael 5 [6 / 1] 7
Top Overall Preferred: (Average rating in parentheses.)
1. Caspian (1.5)
2. Peregrine “Pippin” / Rafael (3.5)
3. Hugo / Mathias (4)
4. Evander (5.5)
Top Consensus Picks: (Rating difference in brackets.)
1. Caspian / Peregrine “Pippin” / Evander [1]
2. Hugo [2]
3. Mathias [4]
4. Rafael [5]
By discarding the least overall preferred (Evander) and the name with the least consensus (Rafael) I got the following list, in order of likely overall preference.
Caspian
Peregrine “Pippin”
Hugo
Mathias
Caspian’s definitely my favorite and, based on your original list, it’s your favorite of the names we’re working with. If we decide to go with more than 1 boy, I personally don’t think Caspian and Peregrine “Pippin” work well as brothers because they share similar sounds and have the same ending. I think Caspian would work well as a brother with both Hugo and Mathias, though I lean slightly more towards Hugo because they would share literary references.
Some combos:
Caspian Thomas
Caspian Evander
Caspian Jonas
Caspian Diarmad
Caspian Nicholas
Hugo August
Hugo Mathias
Hugo Rafael
Hugo Patrick
Hugo Rory
Mathias Edmund
Mathias Anthony
Mathias Evander
Mathias Eoin
Mathias Tristan
———
Top 5 Overall Preferred:
Top 5 Overall Preferred:
1. Caspian
2. Peregrine “Pippin”
3. Hugo
4. Mathias
5. Evander / Rafael
1 Caspian 1 Rafael
2 Mathias 2 Caspian
3 Hugo 3 Peregrine “Pippin”
4 Peregrine “Pippin” 4 Evander
5 Evander 5 Hugo
6 Rafael 6 Mathias
Caspian 1 [1 / 2] 3
Mathias 4 [2 / 6] 8
Hugo 2 [3 / 5] 8
Peregrine “Pippin” 1 [4 / 3] 7
Evander 1 [5 / 4] 9
Rafael 5 [6 / 1] 7
Top Overall Preferred: (Average rating in parentheses.)
1. Caspian (1.5)
2. Peregrine “Pippin” / Rafael (3.5)
3. Hugo / Mathias (4)
4. Evander (5.5)
Top Consensus Picks: (Rating difference in brackets.)
1. Caspian / Peregrine “Pippin” / Evander [1]
2. Hugo [2]
3. Mathias [4]
4. Rafael [5]
By discarding the least overall preferred (Evander) and the name with the least consensus (Rafael) I got the following list, in order of likely overall preference.
Caspian
Peregrine “Pippin”
Hugo
Mathias
Caspian’s definitely my favorite and, based on your original list, it’s your favorite of the names we’re working with. If we decide to go with more than 1 boy, I personally don’t think Caspian and Peregrine “Pippin” work well as brothers because they share similar sounds and have the same ending. I think Caspian would work well as a brother with both Hugo and Mathias, though I lean slightly more towards Hugo because they would share literary references.
Some combos:
Caspian Thomas
Caspian Evander
Caspian Jonas
Caspian Diarmad
Caspian Nicholas
Hugo August
Hugo Mathias
Hugo Rafael
Hugo Patrick
Hugo Rory
Mathias Edmund
Mathias Anthony
Mathias Evander
Mathias Eoin
Mathias Tristan
———
Top 5 Overall Preferred:
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I agree about Caspian and Hugo being a good sibset (also love the lit reference - I’m an english major).
Out of those combos, I like Caspian Thomas, Caspian Diarmad, Hugo August, and Hugo Rafael the most.
I also like the sound of Hugo Peregrine, for some reason, though I understand if you don’t!
I like Caspian, Hugo, and Catriona as sibling names, but that doesn’t both me as much as you. I personally would really love to use Catriona, so if you’d rather do just one child of each gender, that’s fine by me.
For combos, I like Catriona Lynn, Catriona Ruth, and Maeve Lynn.
I also love the idea of more than one middle name (I know, I’m crazy) and I’m really loving the sound of Maeve Catriona Lynn. But again, that’s just me!
I don't think Caspian and Catriona are very similar, in fact the only thing the share, in my opinion, are a first letter and a general "feel" of mystery (I love names that sound like the walked out of a fairytale).
I like Caspian, Hugo, and Maeve; Caspian and Catriona; and Caspian and Maeve the best out of those ideas. But as I said, I also really like Caspian, Hugo, and Catriona.
Out of those combos, I like Caspian Thomas, Caspian Diarmad, Hugo August, and Hugo Rafael the most.
I also like the sound of Hugo Peregrine, for some reason, though I understand if you don’t!
I like Caspian, Hugo, and Catriona as sibling names, but that doesn’t both me as much as you. I personally would really love to use Catriona, so if you’d rather do just one child of each gender, that’s fine by me.
For combos, I like Catriona Lynn, Catriona Ruth, and Maeve Lynn.
I also love the idea of more than one middle name (I know, I’m crazy) and I’m really loving the sound of Maeve Catriona Lynn. But again, that’s just me!
I don't think Caspian and Catriona are very similar, in fact the only thing the share, in my opinion, are a first letter and a general "feel" of mystery (I love names that sound like the walked out of a fairytale).
I like Caspian, Hugo, and Maeve; Caspian and Catriona; and Caspian and Maeve the best out of those ideas. But as I said, I also really like Caspian, Hugo, and Catriona.
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Since you seem to really want to use Catriona, I see two options here.
1. We could just name 2, Caspian and Catriona. Caspian Thomas and Catriona Lynn would probably be my favorite match, but I like Caspian Diarmad and Catriona Lynn as well.
OR
2. We could use your idea of two middle names and have Caspian, Hugo, and Maeve. I love the sound of Maeve Catriona Lynn and that would be a nice way to include Catriona while not having a sibling-set that, in my mind, clashes (so sorry about that, but it really would irk me). I feel like if we use two middle names for one child we should probably use two middle names for all three (though that's really open for negotiation) so I thought Caspian Diarmad Thomas and Hugo Peregrine August might not be too bad. If you have any more ideas or thoughts on this I'd love to hear them.
Do you prefer either of those or have another idea?
1. We could just name 2, Caspian and Catriona. Caspian Thomas and Catriona Lynn would probably be my favorite match, but I like Caspian Diarmad and Catriona Lynn as well.
OR
2. We could use your idea of two middle names and have Caspian, Hugo, and Maeve. I love the sound of Maeve Catriona Lynn and that would be a nice way to include Catriona while not having a sibling-set that, in my mind, clashes (so sorry about that, but it really would irk me). I feel like if we use two middle names for one child we should probably use two middle names for all three (though that's really open for negotiation) so I thought Caspian Diarmad Thomas and Hugo Peregrine August might not be too bad. If you have any more ideas or thoughts on this I'd love to hear them.
Do you prefer either of those or have another idea?
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I understand that it irks you! We can definitely use the second option (and I agree about using two middles for all three). TBH, I really love all of those combos!
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Maeve, Caspian, and Hugo!
That's great then! So we have Maeve, Caspian, and Hugo: Maeve Catriona Lynn, Caspian Diarmad Thomas, and Hugo Peregrine August. Amazing sibling set! Thanks for playing with me!
That's great then! So we have Maeve, Caspian, and Hugo: Maeve Catriona Lynn, Caspian Diarmad Thomas, and Hugo Peregrine August. Amazing sibling set! Thanks for playing with me!
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Yay! This has been a lot of fun! You're welcome, and thank you for playing with me! I think we came up with some great names.
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