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I have my own name (Kahzria). It is a legal first name. The meaning is accurate, as it is my family name. It is unique, yes. Obscure, yes. But someone named Frollein Gladys deleted all of my information that I posted on it.
Seems fairly sketchy to delete a submitted name with a person who...y'know...actually has that name. We worked hard to get the meaning, pronunciation, origins and everything accurate. Who is this person who deleted it? Is the data recoverable?
(Edit: I am asking if the data is recoverable, because the person whose data I used to fill it out is no longer with us, and it was all rather important. Didn't think someone would doubt the accuracy of a submitted name that's actually searchable and identifiable as a real name.))
I have my own name (Kahzria). It is a legal first name. The meaning is accurate, as it is my family name. It is unique, yes. Obscure, yes. But someone named Frollein Gladys deleted all of my information that I posted on it.
Seems fairly sketchy to delete a submitted name with a person who...y'know...actually has that name. We worked hard to get the meaning, pronunciation, origins and everything accurate. Who is this person who deleted it? Is the data recoverable?
(Edit: I am asking if the data is recoverable, because the person whose data I used to fill it out is no longer with us, and it was all rather important. Didn't think someone would doubt the accuracy of a submitted name that's actually searchable and identifiable as a real name.))
This message was edited 7/3/2021, 4:07 PM
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Frollein Gladys is one of the volunteer editors here. The name itself was not deleted, but the description was removed. You wrote:
"First appearing as a given name in America in 2019, Kahzria means "one who looks beyond" or "purveyor of peculiar wisdom". The name was gifted from a man to his beloved to cherish for all eternity and is a symbol of undying love."
The way this is written, there is no way to know if this is a fanciful meaning, or if this is an actually etymological meaning, since no language of origin was given. If this information cannot be verified, then the policy is to remove it. If you can provide more information about this meaning perhaps it can be added again. I've restored the pronunciation.
"First appearing as a given name in America in 2019, Kahzria means "one who looks beyond" or "purveyor of peculiar wisdom". The name was gifted from a man to his beloved to cherish for all eternity and is a symbol of undying love."
The way this is written, there is no way to know if this is a fanciful meaning, or if this is an actually etymological meaning, since no language of origin was given. If this information cannot be verified, then the policy is to remove it. If you can provide more information about this meaning perhaps it can be added again. I've restored the pronunciation.
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I know this post was made around 2 years ago, but I would still like to add onto it, as it was made fairly recent lol. I recently tried the same thing with my own name, Abagail, but was deleted instantly by the exact same person. My name is a variant of Abigail, but I still provided a summary of where it came from and what it's meaning is.
The original post for the name Abagail has little to no details or information at all. I was hoping to give an insightful description on it, since it's my own name. But apparently not, it gets taken down without a second thought. It seemed pretty strange and unfair in my perspective.
I'm not sure what I did wrong exactly, the references? Information? No clue, but I absolutley would've corrected it if it was wrong. If not? Then I don't know what happened.
The original post for the name Abagail has little to no details or information at all. I was hoping to give an insightful description on it, since it's my own name. But apparently not, it gets taken down without a second thought. It seemed pretty strange and unfair in my perspective.
I'm not sure what I did wrong exactly, the references? Information? No clue, but I absolutley would've corrected it if it was wrong. If not? Then I don't know what happened.
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I deleted your submission because it was a duplicate.
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How exactly though? I'm trying to understand. Isn't that a feature for the website to add onto a name that already exists, hence why there is an "Add Anyway?" option?
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That feature is intended for names which look the same but are of a completely different origin, etymology and usage. Compare for example https://www.behindthename.com/name/aya/submitted
Your submission on the other hand was a mere duplicate: the same name, the same spelling, the same meaning and etymology and the same usage.
These are the guidelines for submitted names, I think you might find reading them helpful: https://www.behindthename.com/submit/help.php
The formatting of your submission was problematic, too. May I suggest you take a look at some fully verified submissions to see what kind of information is usually considered helpful and what kind of information is just superfluous? Most of the information you added was already covered by the original entry.
And lastly, I see that you used the discussion tab (which is good), however, the fact that no-one responded straight away is no reason to submit a duplicate.
Your submission on the other hand was a mere duplicate: the same name, the same spelling, the same meaning and etymology and the same usage.
These are the guidelines for submitted names, I think you might find reading them helpful: https://www.behindthename.com/submit/help.php
The formatting of your submission was problematic, too. May I suggest you take a look at some fully verified submissions to see what kind of information is usually considered helpful and what kind of information is just superfluous? Most of the information you added was already covered by the original entry.
And lastly, I see that you used the discussion tab (which is good), however, the fact that no-one responded straight away is no reason to submit a duplicate.
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I have handwritten accounts from family and notations in antique books, but that is all. Legal documentation with the name. I was hoping to restore it to use and provided what information I have. Language Origin has been difficult to point down as my family on that side was nomadic/Eastern European and eventually went westward and was dropped in Ireland. I was hoping to restore it to use through this website, as I've used it for many years as a reference.
Also, thank you for providing the meaning. The language used in the books was indecipherable to me, and trying to figure out their peculiar handwriting was a task uniquely suited to my grandmother and mother.
Also, thank you for providing the meaning. The language used in the books was indecipherable to me, and trying to figure out their peculiar handwriting was a task uniquely suited to my grandmother and mother.
This message was edited 7/3/2021, 5:01 PM
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I strongly recommend that you make photographs and scans of the handwriting in question. After that, go to the community /r/translator on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/translator/ (in English)
Create a post that includes the photographs and/or scans, and ask the people there if they are able to decipher the handwriting or at least can make an educated guess about the source language.
It might be a long shot, but it is certainly worth the effort. The community has nearly 107,000 members and is full of people from all corners of the world.
If you decide to give Reddit a try, then be sure to provide as many details as possible about that side of your family. Just "nomadic" or "Eastern European" is not specific enough. The more specific the information, the easier it will be to identify the source language. Based on your description, most people would probably think of the Romani people and their language, but the description is too vague to be 100% certain about that.
I hope this helped! :)
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