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in reply to a message by clevelandkentevans
Hi !!!
This is what I think has happened with Lluvia (rain) that became Jubia in Katakana and the name Elsa that in Japanese was Eruza. Only Italians use Elsa For the character while in English is Erza. I think that was the same of Lenore: is Elsa the real name and English writers did not realize It so they kept Erza.
This is what I think has happened with Lluvia (rain) that became Jubia in Katakana and the name Elsa that in Japanese was Eruza. Only Italians use Elsa For the character while in English is Erza. I think that was the same of Lenore: is Elsa the real name and English writers did not realize It so they kept Erza.
This message was edited 10/16/2018, 1:15 PM
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No knowledge of Japanese here, but I'd agree with your guess that the Italian names and not the English ones were the original ones.
The Italian names are all real names, real surnames, or connect to words (like Luxus).
The English ones are meaningless.
So my guess is that it started with the Japanese names --> transliterated into Japanese, using Japanese pronunciation rules for those same sounds --> and then the English came from how English speakers hear the Japanese.
Such as Elsa --> Eruza --> Erza. Elsa is a name in English too, but they didn't go there. They took it from the Japanese and kept it meaningless.
Same for Jeraru. They didn't go back to Gerard, a name in English. Instead they "heard" L and made Jellal out of it.
This is like a naming game of telephone! :) . Thank you for this fun puzzle.
The Italian names are all real names, real surnames, or connect to words (like Luxus).
The English ones are meaningless.
So my guess is that it started with the Japanese names --> transliterated into Japanese, using Japanese pronunciation rules for those same sounds --> and then the English came from how English speakers hear the Japanese.
Such as Elsa --> Eruza --> Erza. Elsa is a name in English too, but they didn't go there. They took it from the Japanese and kept it meaningless.
Same for Jeraru. They didn't go back to Gerard, a name in English. Instead they "heard" L and made Jellal out of it.
This is like a naming game of telephone! :) . Thank you for this fun puzzle.
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