Re: The Real Origin of Gavin
in reply to a message by gvnskw
I agree that the roman influence through occupation has merit. Whether it was used as a first or last name is not consequential. The reference to Sir Gawain in the Mallory's poem (alleged-but most likely) may have less to do with the meaning of the name. Both Sir John Gawen and Mallory both served in British parliament around the same time. It may be that Mallory wrote his stories (while in jail) and incorporated known people into his characters much like Shakespeare or other playful writers at the time. The actual Middle English spelling in the earliest manuscript was Gawen. Gawyn and Gawan and all kinds of variations were used as first names as Gavin is today. An alternate meaning is "son of a smith". The Germanic pronunciation of Gawen is Gavin. That's much closer to the latin form Gavinus, which indead means "white hawk" or simply a white bird of prey. At the time the name emerged in medieval England white Boussards were plentiful. They are now extinct.
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Where do you get the Latin etymology "white falcon" from? This site here says that Gabinus probably means "from Gabii" (an antique city in central Italy) and this is a clear and transparent Latin etymology. I don't see any of the Latin words meaning "white" (e.g., albus or candidus) in Gabinus, not any Latin word for a bird of prey.
Some fun facts: cinctus Gabinus was a way to wear the toga, and lapis Gabinus was a fireresistent kind of stone
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/searchresults?q=Gabinus&page=1
--elbowin
Some fun facts: cinctus Gabinus was a way to wear the toga, and lapis Gabinus was a fireresistent kind of stone
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/searchresults?q=Gabinus&page=1
--elbowin