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I was just wonderin' if anyone has any good creative southern names. I would like them for boys and girls please!!!!!
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Below is a long way of saying that if you want to name your baby in the Southern tradition, you must be able to say "he's named for his grandpa" or "her great aunt" or "my best friend since college." It doesn't matter what the name is. If you don't have a family or personal connection as an answer for the question "and who's little Freddie named for?" a Southerner won't consider it Southern. Particularly in the past, Southerners were likely to ask that question if the information wasn't volunteered when the baby was introduced.
I'm not a name expert, but my family is Southern (and very extended.) My experience is that the first and foremost "rule" of Southern naming is that it must be a family name, or at least one with strong personal connections to the parents. That is why even large extended families often don't have many first and middle names shared among them. That's a bit of a joke in my extended family. It also accounts for "old-fashioned" names such as Mildred or Lucius continuing to be assigned to innocent babies even unto this day.
A nuclear family with many children that exhausts the family first & middle name supply (easy to do) would then look to names of close friends and last names from the family tree. Another technique is to re-spell a name across genders. In my family, the boy's name Mordello (from a Spanish noble who did the family a favor in the 1830's) was also used for girls as Mordella (nicknames Maudie and Della.) Although past generations also used names of prominent leaders, heroes or historical figures, I suppose the current skepticism regarding public figures has put this out of fashion for a few decades. In the last century, names from history or literature were intended as a message that the family was educated (probably more so than previous generations had been,) but now this is considered a bit pretentious or odd - or just unnecessary.
These traditions sort of limit the creativity and originality of the parents, often to their frustration, but Great-Aunt Mildred or Grandpa Lucius can't be disappointed - the repercussions are too severe to be faced. :) Another Southern tradition is that you see the extended family often - so it is hard to get away with breaking "the rules" of Southern society. The only open door to originality without hurting someone's feelings was the middle name, which could then be passed on to later generations.
I'm not a name expert, but my family is Southern (and very extended.) My experience is that the first and foremost "rule" of Southern naming is that it must be a family name, or at least one with strong personal connections to the parents. That is why even large extended families often don't have many first and middle names shared among them. That's a bit of a joke in my extended family. It also accounts for "old-fashioned" names such as Mildred or Lucius continuing to be assigned to innocent babies even unto this day.
A nuclear family with many children that exhausts the family first & middle name supply (easy to do) would then look to names of close friends and last names from the family tree. Another technique is to re-spell a name across genders. In my family, the boy's name Mordello (from a Spanish noble who did the family a favor in the 1830's) was also used for girls as Mordella (nicknames Maudie and Della.) Although past generations also used names of prominent leaders, heroes or historical figures, I suppose the current skepticism regarding public figures has put this out of fashion for a few decades. In the last century, names from history or literature were intended as a message that the family was educated (probably more so than previous generations had been,) but now this is considered a bit pretentious or odd - or just unnecessary.
These traditions sort of limit the creativity and originality of the parents, often to their frustration, but Great-Aunt Mildred or Grandpa Lucius can't be disappointed - the repercussions are too severe to be faced. :) Another Southern tradition is that you see the extended family often - so it is hard to get away with breaking "the rules" of Southern society. The only open door to originality without hurting someone's feelings was the middle name, which could then be passed on to later generations.
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True! I've seen some great creativity about honouring family and being original in the South though. One friend, Sue Jane (her grandma Susannah and aunt Jane being the honourees) named her only daughter after her grandmothers Sarah and Elaine - Salaine. This gave room in the mn spot for her mother-in-laws name which Salaine's daddy very much wanted in there. LOL
And I've seen older Southerners stubbornly cling to the idea of family connection even when younger generations make a break for it. My parents named my sister Kerri in 1977, my grandfather assumed this was for his sister Carlotta nn Carrie and told everyone he met about the connection. Fortunately, my father's brother had had a baby girl on the very same day, 3 states away, and had named *her* Kerri (see what happens when you don't discuss names with other pregnant couples? LOL) and so, since my aunt and uncle had no other name in mind, my parents did a quick switch to Kersey, my grandmother's maiden name.
In spite of moving to another continent and being born in the New Mexico, my Appalachian roots show: My children carry Nathaniel, Kai, Isaac, Iosefo/Joseph, Elisapeta, Rose, Olivia, Phoebe and Mariska, all plucked straight off the family tree. I even insist that each child must carry one name from the lineage of my grandmother Sowards whose family immigrated from Devon and gave me my name....though the pickins' are getting slim at this point ;o)
Devon
And I've seen older Southerners stubbornly cling to the idea of family connection even when younger generations make a break for it. My parents named my sister Kerri in 1977, my grandfather assumed this was for his sister Carlotta nn Carrie and told everyone he met about the connection. Fortunately, my father's brother had had a baby girl on the very same day, 3 states away, and had named *her* Kerri (see what happens when you don't discuss names with other pregnant couples? LOL) and so, since my aunt and uncle had no other name in mind, my parents did a quick switch to Kersey, my grandmother's maiden name.
In spite of moving to another continent and being born in the New Mexico, my Appalachian roots show: My children carry Nathaniel, Kai, Isaac, Iosefo/Joseph, Elisapeta, Rose, Olivia, Phoebe and Mariska, all plucked straight off the family tree. I even insist that each child must carry one name from the lineage of my grandmother Sowards whose family immigrated from Devon and gave me my name....though the pickins' are getting slim at this point ;o)
Devon
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I'll make this short as we are being asked to go to the opinion board. Wish my family had thought of your family's creativity - that would have been completely acceptable and appreciated. Also, regarding the last names listed in one response - to the Southern traditionalists in my family (including me I'm afraid,) a shocking faux pas is to use a last name that is *not* in your family or part of a personal connection. What is the point? they would say. The name has to have a point, a personal connection - although not so for many modern couples who are tired of the same ole retreads! :)
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What are 'southern names'? There are 'Southern names' as in names traditionally used in the South but the only southern names I can think of are placenames Sutherland or Sussex.
Southern names tend to be have lots of surnames used as given names (UK tradition - Harper, Tanner, Macon, Cameron, Fallon) as well as French influence (Beau, Quentin, Esme, Desiree, Jasmine) so French surnames as given names are typical - Devereux, Chandler, Chauncey, Scarlett, Travis. An Appalachian characteristic is Latinate names rendered phonetically according to accent so that Lavinia became Lavinie, Odelia became Odelie...again with the French influence. And of course, lots of compund names (French again) leading to compound nn's like Ella-Jo, Anna Mae, Davy-John. A fondness for hero names (Wade, Jefferson, Jackson) and place names (Savannah, Raleigh, Georgia) exist but there's a class factor traditionally, another UK leftover, so that these sorts of names would be more lower class while the upper-crust 'old families' would strive for impressive, respectable names. Jackson Wiley is Southern working class, Jefferson Grant Abbott III called 'Trey' is Southern classy ;o)
In my family tree we have a ex-con in VA/WV who chose to make himself a new life a few counties over with a new name - he chose William Randolph as in the wealthy old Randolphs of Virginia, kin of Pres. Thomas Jefferson. Aspirational naming is nothing new and very much characteristic of the South in the old days.
Devon
Southern names tend to be have lots of surnames used as given names (UK tradition - Harper, Tanner, Macon, Cameron, Fallon) as well as French influence (Beau, Quentin, Esme, Desiree, Jasmine) so French surnames as given names are typical - Devereux, Chandler, Chauncey, Scarlett, Travis. An Appalachian characteristic is Latinate names rendered phonetically according to accent so that Lavinia became Lavinie, Odelia became Odelie...again with the French influence. And of course, lots of compund names (French again) leading to compound nn's like Ella-Jo, Anna Mae, Davy-John. A fondness for hero names (Wade, Jefferson, Jackson) and place names (Savannah, Raleigh, Georgia) exist but there's a class factor traditionally, another UK leftover, so that these sorts of names would be more lower class while the upper-crust 'old families' would strive for impressive, respectable names. Jackson Wiley is Southern working class, Jefferson Grant Abbott III called 'Trey' is Southern classy ;o)
In my family tree we have a ex-con in VA/WV who chose to make himself a new life a few counties over with a new name - he chose William Randolph as in the wealthy old Randolphs of Virginia, kin of Pres. Thomas Jefferson. Aspirational naming is nothing new and very much characteristic of the South in the old days.
Devon
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