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But Mexicans, and Hispanic Western Americans in my area, pronounce y like ee or English y.
Magia, who says y for ll, who says ly for ll?? I know both are used...
Y :)
Magia, who says y for ll, who says ly for ll?? I know both are used...
Y :)
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Hard to tell...
I have heard Spaniards, Venezuelans and Colombians(mostly south americans, excludding Argentineans and Uruguayans) pronouncing Ll as an English J sound, but they also pronounce the Spanish Y as the English J... go figure...
Central and North American, Spanish speaking people(Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans, basically caribbean people) prn it like you said, like ee or English Y. That is how I speak spanish. I NEVER use the english J sound when speaking Spanish... go figure, again.
I only know what one is tought in Grammar School. Proper pronaunciation is Spanish Ll = English "J"
Spanish Y = English "Y" or "ee"
Spanish J = English "H"
Magia, who speaks caribbean spanish, del pais de la eterna primavera!
I have heard Spaniards, Venezuelans and Colombians(mostly south americans, excludding Argentineans and Uruguayans) pronouncing Ll as an English J sound, but they also pronounce the Spanish Y as the English J... go figure...
Central and North American, Spanish speaking people(Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans, basically caribbean people) prn it like you said, like ee or English Y. That is how I speak spanish. I NEVER use the english J sound when speaking Spanish... go figure, again.
I only know what one is tought in Grammar School. Proper pronaunciation is Spanish Ll = English "J"
Spanish Y = English "Y" or "ee"
Spanish J = English "H"
Magia, who speaks caribbean spanish, del pais de la eterna primavera!
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And I missed the point of your question...(sorry)
Y for LL is always miss pronounced and it sounds like Enlgish "ee", now days.
-It used to be- that LL was pronounced like Ly, as you pointed out. To be perfectly honest, I had forgotten about that. That is in fact *THE* proper way of pronouncing Spanish Ll. Besides Costaricans, I have NEVER heard anyone say Pollo(chicken) like Pol-yo... I went to "proper speach" class when I was in college and I remember the Spanish expert saying "Ll" should be prnd. "L-Y" but no one ever uses it, there forth it has become "obsolete".
Hope I got it right this time,
Magia
Y for LL is always miss pronounced and it sounds like Enlgish "ee", now days.
-It used to be- that LL was pronounced like Ly, as you pointed out. To be perfectly honest, I had forgotten about that. That is in fact *THE* proper way of pronouncing Spanish Ll. Besides Costaricans, I have NEVER heard anyone say Pollo(chicken) like Pol-yo... I went to "proper speach" class when I was in college and I remember the Spanish expert saying "Ll" should be prnd. "L-Y" but no one ever uses it, there forth it has become "obsolete".
Hope I got it right this time,
Magia
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