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in reply to a message by Swiff
I'm having difficulty imagining a smiling lump of gold! (A lump of gold at which people smile ... yes, perhaps.)
Isn't it likely that English-speaking people assume it's female because it ends in -a? Same as using Andrea for girls? Though there's usually a pronunciation difference there: an DRAY a for males and ANN dree a for females. And Luka would stay the same for both.
Isn't it likely that English-speaking people assume it's female because it ends in -a? Same as using Andrea for girls? Though there's usually a pronunciation difference there: an DRAY a for males and ANN dree a for females. And Luka would stay the same for both.
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A smiling lump of gold is a really interesting meaning for a name, isn´t it? It could be a creative translation for a shining lump of gold though.
About Andrea as a girl name I found an interesting idea in a book by German name expert Wilfried Seibicke. He suggests that it is a modification of the French name Andrée. The earliest date he found for the use of the name was 1693 in Sweden.
About Andrea as a girl name I found an interesting idea in a book by German name expert Wilfried Seibicke. He suggests that it is a modification of the French name Andrée. The earliest date he found for the use of the name was 1693 in Sweden.
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About Andrea
Andrea appears as feminine name in the Catalan novel Curial e Güelfa (between 1432 and 1468), in Spanish it was a usual name among noble women in 16th c. (at least) and in English it is recorded at least since 1617 (according to Whyticombe).
In Latin documents, it is attested since 1291, at least:
http://www.steuco.it/immagini_canonici/spv_canoniche.pdf
Perhaps in Germanic languages (German, Swedish, English...) Andrea appeared as adaptation of the French Andrée, but in Latin languages (Catalan, Spanish) it would be an independent form from the Latin, appeared probably like cultivated/clasicist form. That is why in Catalan there is the cognate Andreua/Andrea and in Spanish the cognate Andresa/Andrea.
Andrea appears as feminine name in the Catalan novel Curial e Güelfa (between 1432 and 1468), in Spanish it was a usual name among noble women in 16th c. (at least) and in English it is recorded at least since 1617 (according to Whyticombe).
In Latin documents, it is attested since 1291, at least:
http://www.steuco.it/immagini_canonici/spv_canoniche.pdf
Perhaps in Germanic languages (German, Swedish, English...) Andrea appeared as adaptation of the French Andrée, but in Latin languages (Catalan, Spanish) it would be an independent form from the Latin, appeared probably like cultivated/clasicist form. That is why in Catalan there is the cognate Andreua/Andrea and in Spanish the cognate Andresa/Andrea.
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