Re: Long name - Miss Claire
in reply to a message by Miss Claire
Hi, Claire! Among South African Jews it's my impression that the girls tend to get two given names and the boys one. That's not counting their Hebrew names, that they use for liturgical purposes. So you have, say, Morris marrying Anne Penelope and that's what's on all the forms; but at the wedding it's Moshe marrying Chana (not Chana Pnina!)
I'm fascinated that it's so different in France.
I'm fascinated that it's so different in France.
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In fact even in the Bible people have sometimes many middle names!
~~ Claire ~~
My ! are Alia, Eidel, Enola, Israel, Dudel, Yuri, Lina, Lorelei, Leilani, Owen, Julian, Glorinda, Mirinda
My ? are Hillel, Meshullam, Johnny, Ginny, Cordelia, Fiammetta, Yocheved
My ~ are Tehila, Tilda, Hailey, Gillian, Huldah
My / are Aglaia and July
~~ Claire ~~
My ! are Alia, Eidel, Enola, Israel, Dudel, Yuri, Lina, Lorelei, Leilani, Owen, Julian, Glorinda, Mirinda
My ? are Hillel, Meshullam, Johnny, Ginny, Cordelia, Fiammetta, Yocheved
My ~ are Tehila, Tilda, Hailey, Gillian, Huldah
My / are Aglaia and July
They do? I'm familiar with the name changes - Abram -> Abraham, Sarai -> Sarah - but not with middle names. Middle of what? Isn't the biblical form something like A, son of B? Not the same as A Bson, just as Jim, son of Jack isn't the same as Jim Jackson. But I can't recall a character who's multinamed from the start - except those children of a prophet (was it Jeremiah? I'm rusty!) whose names were whole sentences - and I always thought they were plot devices, not real people.
I'd be interested to learn more!
I'd be interested to learn more!
In fact they are middle names in the French sense: many first names, but most of the time only the first is used.
The Biblical / Jewish form is indeed X son of Y, but X & Y can be Nathan, or Yeshayahu David, or Gershon Shaul YomTov Lipman (all real names from my family).
In Jewish tradition (I can't remember if it is in the Bible or in the Talmud or both since we learn them together), Miriam (sister of Moshe) must have a full name like Miriam Azuvah Puah Efrat (I know I forget some). All these names refer to a period or event in her life, because the parents are given a 60th of the gift of prophecy when they name a child.
Jethro (Zipporah's dad) has seven names: Yitro Yeter Reuel Heber and others I've forgotten...
Moshe has also many names (7 for the 7 midot http://www.jewishmag.com/54mag/omer-insight/omerinsight.htm).
When the daughter of Pharaoh converts to Judaism, she receives two names Batyah Yehudit.
These are the examples I remember :)
~~ Claire ~~
My ! are Alia, Eidel, Enola, Israel, Dudel, Yuri, Lina, Lorelei, Leilani, Owen, Julian, Glorinda, Mirinda
My ? are Hillel, Meshullam, Johnny, Ginny, Cordelia, Fiammetta, Yocheved
My ~ are Tehila, Tilda, Hailey, Gillian, Huldah
My / are Aglaia and July
The Biblical / Jewish form is indeed X son of Y, but X & Y can be Nathan, or Yeshayahu David, or Gershon Shaul YomTov Lipman (all real names from my family).
In Jewish tradition (I can't remember if it is in the Bible or in the Talmud or both since we learn them together), Miriam (sister of Moshe) must have a full name like Miriam Azuvah Puah Efrat (I know I forget some). All these names refer to a period or event in her life, because the parents are given a 60th of the gift of prophecy when they name a child.
Jethro (Zipporah's dad) has seven names: Yitro Yeter Reuel Heber and others I've forgotten...
Moshe has also many names (7 for the 7 midot http://www.jewishmag.com/54mag/omer-insight/omerinsight.htm).
When the daughter of Pharaoh converts to Judaism, she receives two names Batyah Yehudit.
These are the examples I remember :)
~~ Claire ~~
My ! are Alia, Eidel, Enola, Israel, Dudel, Yuri, Lina, Lorelei, Leilani, Owen, Julian, Glorinda, Mirinda
My ? are Hillel, Meshullam, Johnny, Ginny, Cordelia, Fiammetta, Yocheved
My ~ are Tehila, Tilda, Hailey, Gillian, Huldah
My / are Aglaia and July