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Help. Obviously I am not familiar with how to create a name in such a way that the root words are recognizable. I'm hoping people out there will take pity on a newbie. :-)
I have to create a name for a project. It has to combine both "owl" and "thunderbolt" (or at least thunder). I've gone through too many languages to remember all of them, and while I did print out a nice 42 page lesson on writing aramaic, I haven't had too much luck with finding words that go well together for my name project. Everything is just too long.
The one I like the best so far is Welsh - Taran meaning thunder, and cuan meaning owl. If I understood the dictionary entries correctly, taranau would be the feminine of thunder, and cuanod the feminine of owl (but I'm not sure I understood it correctly) - so I put them together for Taranaucuanod. See what I mean? Way too long, and for me absolutely unpronouncable (not that I expect to have to pronounce it).
I did kind of like the Inuit words I found - kalluk (thunder) and naataq (owl), but... The Alabama words were nice, too - tokafka and kitini. How do I put them into a name, though??
Any advice will be very much appreciated!!
Thanks!
Laura
I have to create a name for a project. It has to combine both "owl" and "thunderbolt" (or at least thunder). I've gone through too many languages to remember all of them, and while I did print out a nice 42 page lesson on writing aramaic, I haven't had too much luck with finding words that go well together for my name project. Everything is just too long.
The one I like the best so far is Welsh - Taran meaning thunder, and cuan meaning owl. If I understood the dictionary entries correctly, taranau would be the feminine of thunder, and cuanod the feminine of owl (but I'm not sure I understood it correctly) - so I put them together for Taranaucuanod. See what I mean? Way too long, and for me absolutely unpronouncable (not that I expect to have to pronounce it).
I did kind of like the Inuit words I found - kalluk (thunder) and naataq (owl), but... The Alabama words were nice, too - tokafka and kitini. How do I put them into a name, though??
Any advice will be very much appreciated!!
Thanks!
Laura
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Intriguing project! I see you're taking care to stick to the same language for both elements of the name you're looking to create.
May I ask how you got involved in this project, and what it's for?
-- Nanaea
May I ask how you got involved in this project, and what it's for?
-- Nanaea
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Well, it's not an etymology class, that's for sure, or I'd hopefully have a better idea of what I'm doing by now. ;-)
I definitely want to stick to the same language for each part of the name. Reading back through the old posts, I've been fascinated by the posts listing the male and female greek names - if only my name was as easy as finding a name that meant "gift of Athena" or "gift of Isis"!! And if only I could find *short* Greek words for owl (koukoubagia??) and thunderbolt (I found a lot of words for thunderbolt, and I'm sure they all have slightly different meanings that I will never know)... Keraunos Koukoubagia just doesn't flow well to me.
I love the anagrams, too - one post suggested the name Dayna Rain, and I think that is an absolutely beautiful name!
Maybe an anagram of owl and thunderbolt? Hmm.
But about names in general -
My late husband and I had all of our baby names picked out before we were even engaged. Unfortunately we never had kids, but we had personalities and professions assigned to each of them based on name and birth order. :-) Alexander Luke Kieth, Meghan Rhiannon Elaine, Sean Geoffrey Harrison, and Jasmine Belle Aurora (okay, I was in full Disney mode with that one). And then we added names for if we had a set of boy/girl twins - Delenn Narissa (or Nyssa, I don't remember) and Duncan Nathaniel - so their initials would be DNA. I think we were sleep deprived when we came up with that one. :-)
I now have many assorted names picked out for if I ever do have a child. I suppose if it comes down to it, I'll have to let the guy have some input, though. :-) I have at least four girl names picked out, but I think no matter the sex of the child or no matter what I name him/her, I'm just going to call her (or him) Max. Nice and simple, without the tens of thousands of meanings I have laced in each and every name I've ever picked out.
I definitely want to stick to the same language for each part of the name. Reading back through the old posts, I've been fascinated by the posts listing the male and female greek names - if only my name was as easy as finding a name that meant "gift of Athena" or "gift of Isis"!! And if only I could find *short* Greek words for owl (koukoubagia??) and thunderbolt (I found a lot of words for thunderbolt, and I'm sure they all have slightly different meanings that I will never know)... Keraunos Koukoubagia just doesn't flow well to me.
I love the anagrams, too - one post suggested the name Dayna Rain, and I think that is an absolutely beautiful name!
Maybe an anagram of owl and thunderbolt? Hmm.
But about names in general -
My late husband and I had all of our baby names picked out before we were even engaged. Unfortunately we never had kids, but we had personalities and professions assigned to each of them based on name and birth order. :-) Alexander Luke Kieth, Meghan Rhiannon Elaine, Sean Geoffrey Harrison, and Jasmine Belle Aurora (okay, I was in full Disney mode with that one). And then we added names for if we had a set of boy/girl twins - Delenn Narissa (or Nyssa, I don't remember) and Duncan Nathaniel - so their initials would be DNA. I think we were sleep deprived when we came up with that one. :-)
I now have many assorted names picked out for if I ever do have a child. I suppose if it comes down to it, I'll have to let the guy have some input, though. :-) I have at least four girl names picked out, but I think no matter the sex of the child or no matter what I name him/her, I'm just going to call her (or him) Max. Nice and simple, without the tens of thousands of meanings I have laced in each and every name I've ever picked out.
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Greek for thunderbolt????
hi...
desperation makes me write this mail...i must've gone through every single link I could find...but i still cant find what i want. what in heavens name, did the greek call the thunderbolt?????
hi...
desperation makes me write this mail...i must've gone through every single link I could find...but i still cant find what i want. what in heavens name, did the greek call the thunderbolt?????
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Thunderbolt and lighting very-very frightening me!
Short Greek names for Owl and Thunder? My pleasure to be of service.
A cool Greek name for thunder is *Bronte* (as in the infamous Bronte trio).
Koukoubagia is a rather recent onomatopoeic rendition of owl. Shorter versions from classical Greek include *Glaux* (or *Glaukos*)and *Skops* (or *Skops*).
So how do "Bronte Glaux" or "Bronte Scops* resonate to your ears?
If you are not content, how about using "Athena" or "Athene" for owl? After all, the owl was the Goddess Athena's pet symbol for wisdom. And *everyone* would love a name like *Athene Bronte* :)
Short Greek names for Owl and Thunder? My pleasure to be of service.
A cool Greek name for thunder is *Bronte* (as in the infamous Bronte trio).
Koukoubagia is a rather recent onomatopoeic rendition of owl. Shorter versions from classical Greek include *Glaux* (or *Glaukos*)and *Skops* (or *Skops*).
So how do "Bronte Glaux" or "Bronte Scops* resonate to your ears?
If you are not content, how about using "Athena" or "Athene" for owl? After all, the owl was the Goddess Athena's pet symbol for wisdom. And *everyone* would love a name like *Athene Bronte* :)
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I wasn’t able to combine "God-given thunderous owl " into a single, bona-fide, non-pythonesque Greek name. My suggestions:
Dorothea Brontoglauke
Theodosia Brontoglauke
Theodora Brontoglauke
Brontoglauke (pronounced "vrontoGLAPHkey") is a grammatically kosher combination of Bronte and Glaux . If you have a favorite deity other than the generic theo- , we could come up with an even more interesting first name.
By the way, an ancient proverb that has survived to this day is "Glauk' athenaze", i.e., to "carry owls to Athens". The expression is similar to the British "carry coals to Newcastle".
Brontopavlos
Dorothea Brontoglauke
Theodosia Brontoglauke
Theodora Brontoglauke
Brontoglauke (pronounced "vrontoGLAPHkey") is a grammatically kosher combination of Bronte and Glaux . If you have a favorite deity other than the generic theo- , we could come up with an even more interesting first name.
By the way, an ancient proverb that has survived to this day is "Glauk' athenaze", i.e., to "carry owls to Athens". The expression is similar to the British "carry coals to Newcastle".
Brontopavlos
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PS
PS Glaux is feminine and Skops is masculine. I presume you are searching for a girlie name, so I ditched Skops altogether.
PS Glaux is feminine and Skops is masculine. I presume you are searching for a girlie name, so I ditched Skops altogether.
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Oooh! Combining one of my favorite songs with *very* helpful info - what more could a girl ask for? ;-)
I like Bronte... I think I had originally stayed away from it because it had too much meaning already attached, but then after a day of frustration I had forgotten all about it. I don't know if I like Glaux or Skops better... Bronteglaux? That has a kind of a ring to it.
Athene Bronte definitely has a ring to it - maybe if I'm ever in need of a pseudonym someday. :-)
Thanks!!
Laura
I like Bronte... I think I had originally stayed away from it because it had too much meaning already attached, but then after a day of frustration I had forgotten all about it. I don't know if I like Glaux or Skops better... Bronteglaux? That has a kind of a ring to it.
Athene Bronte definitely has a ring to it - maybe if I'm ever in need of a pseudonym someday. :-)
Thanks!!
Laura
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Ooo! Ooo! Let me! Let me!
"Athene Bronte definitely has a ring to it - maybe if I'm ever in need of a pseudonym someday."
****** Yep, Athene Bronte is a cool name. Pavlos always comes up with the good'uns. :)
But let memememememe anagram a pseudonym for you! I just need your first and middle names. If you're not too concerned about privacy, you can give me your last name, too.
I'll 'gram ya a SLAMMIN' pseudonym! :)
-- Nanaea
"Athene Bronte definitely has a ring to it - maybe if I'm ever in need of a pseudonym someday."
****** Yep, Athene Bronte is a cool name. Pavlos always comes up with the good'uns. :)
But let memememememe anagram a pseudonym for you! I just need your first and middle names. If you're not too concerned about privacy, you can give me your last name, too.
I'll 'gram ya a SLAMMIN' pseudonym! :)
-- Nanaea
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I can't resist - I tried and tried and couldn't come up with ANYthing from my name. Here you go -
Laura Christine Wilson-Anderson
I can't wait to see what you get!!
Laura
Laura Christine Wilson-Anderson
I can't wait to see what you get!!
Laura
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PS
Yes, I spelled Kieth the way we were going to spell it. My husband's middle name was Kieth, which he was told by his mother was a Russian variant of Keith, pronounced "Kee-ayth", and that his father (in college at the time and editor of the poetry magazine on campus) had been really in to everything Russian when he was born, and that's why they picked it (along with naming him Ian, when his father refused to let Adair name him after him - John). After he died, his mother's brother informed his sister and I that the name was Keith, not Kieth, and that *he* had picked it out when Ian was born. At the funeral, his father's father informed me that Ian was named after him, because Keith was his middle name. Amazing how one name can have so many meanings... or how many people you can fool into thinking you named someone after them! ;-)
No, I never bothered to check the birth certificate.
Laura
Yes, I spelled Kieth the way we were going to spell it. My husband's middle name was Kieth, which he was told by his mother was a Russian variant of Keith, pronounced "Kee-ayth", and that his father (in college at the time and editor of the poetry magazine on campus) had been really in to everything Russian when he was born, and that's why they picked it (along with naming him Ian, when his father refused to let Adair name him after him - John). After he died, his mother's brother informed his sister and I that the name was Keith, not Kieth, and that *he* had picked it out when Ian was born. At the funeral, his father's father informed me that Ian was named after him, because Keith was his middle name. Amazing how one name can have so many meanings... or how many people you can fool into thinking you named someone after them! ;-)
No, I never bothered to check the birth certificate.
Laura
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At this point, I'm far past caring (except that it be a female name). I tried anagrams of "owl thunder" "owl thunderbolt" "owl bearing thunderbolt", and many of the different language versions of those words that I had found. While I did get some amusing anagrams (Batwing Bordello Hunter and Gabrielle Downturn Both), I got very little in the way of something I could use... so, hey, if anyone can think of anything - one or two names, or maybe even three - that somehow has the meanings of owl and thunder in there, and sounds good (Jaswinder Opa just didn't do it for me), please, throw it out.
Thunder owl got me "Don't we hurl"...
Also Ruth Weldon, but I guess I'm being picky. I didn't like that one. My ex-best friend's middle name was Ruth.
Laura, trying to picture what "Canaan Tudor" would look like...
Thunder owl got me "Don't we hurl"...
Also Ruth Weldon, but I guess I'm being picky. I didn't like that one. My ex-best friend's middle name was Ruth.
Laura, trying to picture what "Canaan Tudor" would look like...
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Oooh! I didn't get anything like those names... well, something got me Deborah Burlington Welt and Deborah Burt Wellington. I'm not really fond of the name Tobi, but I kind of like Dawnelle Thornberg. Maybe Dawnelle Bito-Thornberg?
I really like Gwendolina Thurber. Hmmm...
Here's some of the other amusing things I got yesterday. I don't remember what words I had put it - I just scribbled down words that either looked promising or funny. I got more of the latter than the former!
Blend truth wool
Blonde utter howl
Dub the troll now
Thrown duel
Dwelt Huron
Hold wet urn
Aunt Arcana Duo
Canada Auto Run
A Canna Tudor
A Duncan Tora (maybe Duncan Atora?)
Draco Annuta
Can a toad run?
Run to Canada
Anaconda Rut
NCAA Rotunda
Dana Can Tour
Canaan Tudor
So maybe I'll just ask the question: "Can a toad run to Canada while holding a wet urn?"
Thank you for the help!! Now to figure out what to actually use...
Laura
I really like Gwendolina Thurber. Hmmm...
Here's some of the other amusing things I got yesterday. I don't remember what words I had put it - I just scribbled down words that either looked promising or funny. I got more of the latter than the former!
Blend truth wool
Blonde utter howl
Dub the troll now
Thrown duel
Dwelt Huron
Hold wet urn
Aunt Arcana Duo
Canada Auto Run
A Canna Tudor
A Duncan Tora (maybe Duncan Atora?)
Draco Annuta
Can a toad run?
Run to Canada
Anaconda Rut
NCAA Rotunda
Dana Can Tour
Canaan Tudor
So maybe I'll just ask the question: "Can a toad run to Canada while holding a wet urn?"
Thank you for the help!! Now to figure out what to actually use...
Laura
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Batwing Bordello *is* my language... :)
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