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Re: Ivy or Holly?
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I don't really like either because they seem outdated, and I don't think the looks or sounds are pretty. I have some associations with trashiness, too, but that's from people I know who bear the name. If I had to pick one over the other, I'd choose Ivy, though, since it is less populra. Ivy Elizabeth would be nice.

What are the convulsions of a city in comparison with the insurrections of the soul?
Man is a depth still greater than the people.
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