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HelpSome interesting spottings
I've come across these recently.
Ira John - 2. Parents want to name the new baby Barry and are getting quite a lot of push back on it.
Luther Vincent - newborn
Gary - I've come across this a few times.
Judas - someone posted on Reddit that they wanted to name their child Judas. It got quite the reaction.
The only one I really like is Ira.
Ira John - 2. Parents want to name the new baby Barry and are getting quite a lot of push back on it.
Luther Vincent - newborn
Gary - I've come across this a few times.
Judas - someone posted on Reddit that they wanted to name their child Judas. It got quite the reaction.
The only one I really like is Ira.
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Ira is a good choice; I wish the middle name were more interesting, as it dulls the name. Barry is a solid name and better than a lot of the names given these days.
Luther isn't my style, but Luther Vincent is a handsome combo.
Is Gary a young kid? Otherwise, I don't get why it's interesting. It's a very normal name; it's my dad's name.
I've always thought Judas sounds nice; I like it more than Jude or Judah.
Luther isn't my style, but Luther Vincent is a handsome combo.
Is Gary a young kid? Otherwise, I don't get why it's interesting. It's a very normal name; it's my dad's name.
I've always thought Judas sounds nice; I like it more than Jude or Judah.
I like Luther Vincent. Judas has a nice sound but the association is too strong.
I far prefer Barry to Ira, and I don't even like Barry.
Luther is too Lutheran for me; Vincent is OK as a mn.
In spite of my excellent nephew, I don't enjoy Gary one bit. Gareth is much better.
If Judas is lucky, he'll be known as Jude and attract a splendid theme song.
Luther is too Lutheran for me; Vincent is OK as a mn.
In spite of my excellent nephew, I don't enjoy Gary one bit. Gareth is much better.
If Judas is lucky, he'll be known as Jude and attract a splendid theme song.
I don't think Barry's that bad. It sounds old but so does Ira. I prefer it to Gary (and Larry and Cary) and pronounce it the same as Berry (BtN says bar-ee is also a thing, which I've never heard). Perry is my favorite of that group of rhyming names - and it has grown on me in recent years; I didn't used to like it at all.
I don't like the sound of Luther, and he sounds like someone's German great-great-grandfather to me, but it doesn't seem that different stylewise from Lowell (I remember you mentioned seeing that recently and that also seemed like someone's German great-great grandfather to me); at least he could go by Lu / Louie if he wanted.
Sometimes people say they want to use Lucifer; I guess because they think it's edgy or because it's in pop culture or because they sympathize with the rebel, and I could see a similar thing with Judas especially if they like Judas Priest. But also I was taught in church that Judas was just the Greek translation of Judah and not a singular type of name, so it's possible the person just likes the sound more (and believe the religious people around them also might understand it's an ordinary name) and would pick Jonas over Jonah for the same reason. It seems a little unfortunate for the kid but not in a way I care that much about; personally I feel like Lilith and perhaps Delilah are at least as negative but those got popular.
I don't like the sound of Luther, and he sounds like someone's German great-great-grandfather to me, but it doesn't seem that different stylewise from Lowell (I remember you mentioned seeing that recently and that also seemed like someone's German great-great grandfather to me); at least he could go by Lu / Louie if he wanted.
Sometimes people say they want to use Lucifer; I guess because they think it's edgy or because it's in pop culture or because they sympathize with the rebel, and I could see a similar thing with Judas especially if they like Judas Priest. But also I was taught in church that Judas was just the Greek translation of Judah and not a singular type of name, so it's possible the person just likes the sound more (and believe the religious people around them also might understand it's an ordinary name) and would pick Jonas over Jonah for the same reason. It seems a little unfortunate for the kid but not in a way I care that much about; personally I feel like Lilith and perhaps Delilah are at least as negative but those got popular.
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I don't think Delilah is that negative, she did what she could for her people. Lilith, yes, but I can also understand the feminist view of it (ie Lilith Fair)
Honestly, when I heard Judas I just thought old testament name that is coming back. It took me a minute to realize the significance. I felt ridiculous afterwards, but given all the old-fashioned bible names i"ve heard it made sense. Issachar, Ezekiel, Keziah, Keturah
Honestly, when I heard Judas I just thought old testament name that is coming back. It took me a minute to realize the significance. I felt ridiculous afterwards, but given all the old-fashioned bible names i"ve heard it made sense. Issachar, Ezekiel, Keziah, Keturah
Well, some people think Judas Iscariot cared about his people. He has that famous line about how the money spent on perfume used to anoint Jesus's feet could have been used to feed the poor. I think he's often portrayed as sympathetic in modern pop culture (like in Jesus Christ Superstar)?
I picked on Delilah because the name itself has been synonymous with manipulation or betrayal. Which yes can be sympathized with and the stereotype subverted. 🤷🏻♀️ Lilith I feel has a more supernatural quality so more like Lucifer.
I've equated Judah (which has risen a lot in popularity) and Judas in my head since I was a child, though, because I was told they were basically the same name. So that's part of why I feel like it's just whatever, even though I do know it has a negative connotation.
edit: I'm gonna add that historically hatred of Judas Iscariot is linked with anti-Semitism.
I picked on Delilah because the name itself has been synonymous with manipulation or betrayal. Which yes can be sympathized with and the stereotype subverted. 🤷🏻♀️ Lilith I feel has a more supernatural quality so more like Lucifer.
I've equated Judah (which has risen a lot in popularity) and Judas in my head since I was a child, though, because I was told they were basically the same name. So that's part of why I feel like it's just whatever, even though I do know it has a negative connotation.
edit: I'm gonna add that historically hatred of Judas Iscariot is linked with anti-Semitism.
This message was edited 4/6/2025, 6:48 PM
Very true with Judas Iscariot.
Jane Yolen has a series of books about women and biblical women, I think Deliah is in there. I know Salome is.
https://www.janeyolen.com/meet-me-at-the-well-the-girls-and-women-of-the-bible/ I Lilith isn't. I used to read Miriam a lot of books on mythology, but I don't think I ever came across a story of Lilith. Probably a good thing, because her story is terrifying.
t's an excellent book. I recommend just about everything Yolen writes, though.
Jane Yolen has a series of books about women and biblical women, I think Deliah is in there. I know Salome is.
https://www.janeyolen.com/meet-me-at-the-well-the-girls-and-women-of-the-bible/ I Lilith isn't. I used to read Miriam a lot of books on mythology, but I don't think I ever came across a story of Lilith. Probably a good thing, because her story is terrifying.
t's an excellent book. I recommend just about everything Yolen writes, though.
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I think she was referring to (the assumption of?) Delilah being a Philistine working for Philistines. The story of Judith killing Holofernes is similar, and she gets praise for it in the bible, because she was Judean.
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Exactly.
Yeah, that's fair
Ira John - I love this name! I'm neutral on Barry. It feels like a nn to me.
Luther Vincent - Luther is cool. I don't like Vincent as much, but it works as a combo.
Gary - Not a personal favorite. It's very dated, I think. I wouldn't mind it as a nickname for Garret or Garreth, though.
Judas - I understand liking the name - I love the sound of it. But naming your kid Judas... Even for non-religious people, it's a synonym for someone untrustworthy, a traitor. Avoid the connotation and use Judah or Jude, like Ceri said.
Luther Vincent - Luther is cool. I don't like Vincent as much, but it works as a combo.
Gary - Not a personal favorite. It's very dated, I think. I wouldn't mind it as a nickname for Garret or Garreth, though.
Judas - I understand liking the name - I love the sound of it. But naming your kid Judas... Even for non-religious people, it's a synonym for someone untrustworthy, a traitor. Avoid the connotation and use Judah or Jude, like Ceri said.
I kind of get liking Judas because I too think it's a nice name if you ignore everything but sound and look. If you're not religious I guess it's just another Biblical name but at the same time it's naïve to think you can use such a name and not have people react. Judas is synonymous with traitor and I hope no one wants to call their child that.
eh, I don't think Judas is like Adolf.
Yeah, I don't think they're comparable at all. I'm not sure anything is comparable to Adolf.
Ira and Luther, aw!
Barry on a baby would be SO cute. I think trends are moving this way, they are just ahead of the curve. Lots of "next door neighbour" names are gonna come back I think.
Luther and Ira are great. Gary is still tough for me, but I should get over it because I bet there are gonna be more little Garys named after grandpa Gary soon. Maybe Garrison will become the new Harrison.
Luther and Ira are great. Gary is still tough for me, but I should get over it because I bet there are gonna be more little Garys named after grandpa Gary soon. Maybe Garrison will become the new Harrison.
oh god, I'm imagining siblings Garrison and Gunner now.
Maybe.
My father-in-law is Gary, my in-laws used his middle name to honor. Shaun Michael, Caleb Michael, and my SIL was going to use Aaron Michael if she had a boy. I don't think any of them considered using Gary. My other brother-in-law named his eldest Michell, my fil's favorite name. (My MIL wouldn't let him use it.)
Yes, my FIL is that amazing of a guy that everyone but us honored him. ;-)
My father-in-law is Gary, my in-laws used his middle name to honor. Shaun Michael, Caleb Michael, and my SIL was going to use Aaron Michael if she had a boy. I don't think any of them considered using Gary. My other brother-in-law named his eldest Michell, my fil's favorite name. (My MIL wouldn't let him use it.)
Yes, my FIL is that amazing of a guy that everyone but us honored him. ;-)