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in reply to a message by Manipura
Not sure where you’re getting your Willow usage stats from because they do not reflect BtN stats - it doesn’t hit used “thousands of times” until 2010z
No, most people aren’t going to know the exact stats - but they will have had similar exposure levels and style phases, and it’s very noticeable with names that been at some level of constant consciousness with the general public (Ophelia in literature if not in actual usage) and names that shot to sudden popularity from obscure quickly and recently
This is what is noticeable- not that Willow is a plant and Ophelia gives “pastoral” vibes; and certainly not that one means help and the other healing.
http://www.behindthename.com/pnl/56287
No, most people aren’t going to know the exact stats - but they will have had similar exposure levels and style phases, and it’s very noticeable with names that been at some level of constant consciousness with the general public (Ophelia in literature if not in actual usage) and names that shot to sudden popularity from obscure quickly and recently
This is what is noticeable- not that Willow is a plant and Ophelia gives “pastoral” vibes; and certainly not that one means help and the other healing.
http://www.behindthename.com/pnl/56287
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...yeah, I was telling you I get that similar sense of time from Willow (along with all the other impressions). I don't think it's true we have similar exposure levels, or that everyone would, or that everyone would make such a distinction between it and Willa. But I assume my sense is at least vaguely like the sense you said you get from Willa (or possibly Ivy? Ivy wasn't that popular until recently, but it's been around long enough that it seems like it could be someone's great-grandmother to me).
I'm getting the knowledge of Willow having been in use, plus the spelling variations that include it, from census records and cemeteries, but beyond that, it just doesn't sound new to me. I don't really have a reason to believe I'm alone in that, considering the records do exist.
I have no idea how many times a name had to be used to chart in any given year (I'd think thousands of times over decades might not cut it?) and also no idea how many names that have charted don't have a page/rank listed on BtN specifically (I have come across some from the SSA charts that aren't on BtN; not often, but it happens).
I'm getting the knowledge of Willow having been in use, plus the spelling variations that include it, from census records and cemeteries, but beyond that, it just doesn't sound new to me. I don't really have a reason to believe I'm alone in that, considering the records do exist.
I have no idea how many times a name had to be used to chart in any given year (I'd think thousands of times over decades might not cut it?) and also no idea how many names that have charted don't have a page/rank listed on BtN specifically (I have come across some from the SSA charts that aren't on BtN; not often, but it happens).
This message was edited 8/31/2023, 6:42 AM
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