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HelpRe: Opinions on baby name Soleil
in reply to a message by jonesilove
Soleil, Sol, Sole, Sunny are all rising in usage somewhere.
I don't find it pretentious, more kind of...camp? I prefer the straightforwardness of Sunny, but it's not just the language difference because I like Sol about as much as Sunny. I think I also prefer Solaris, Sola, and Solace...but not Sloan or Scarlet or Solstice for whatever that's worth. I guess it's about equal with Sole imo.
I remember liking Soleil back when I first joined BtN in 2006. I don't remember exactly why, but in retrospect, I think it was related to Cirque du Soleil's Beatles show being mentioned and me just thinking the word sounded good. I think I posted about it and eventually someone said something that convinced me I didn't like it. I associate it with other names I liked back then and don't so much anymore, so looking back at my teenage polls...
Lotus Aurelia
Mirabella Rain
Luna Melody
Lily Therese
Thisbe Avalon
Bellatrix Soleil (!) I'd forgotten I liked Bellatrix, yikes
Alora Caprice
It's a sparkly ephemeral fairy type name.
Some other names that seem kinda adjacent stylewise: Layla, Zola, Sylvie, Selene, Nova, Summer, Serenity, Skylar, Belle, Fleur, Reign, Eden, Wren, Saylor, Saoirse, Indigo, Indie, Cadence, Solange, Zendaya, Phoenix, Phaedra, Genesis, Juliet.
I don't find it pretentious, more kind of...camp? I prefer the straightforwardness of Sunny, but it's not just the language difference because I like Sol about as much as Sunny. I think I also prefer Solaris, Sola, and Solace...but not Sloan or Scarlet or Solstice for whatever that's worth. I guess it's about equal with Sole imo.
I remember liking Soleil back when I first joined BtN in 2006. I don't remember exactly why, but in retrospect, I think it was related to Cirque du Soleil's Beatles show being mentioned and me just thinking the word sounded good. I think I posted about it and eventually someone said something that convinced me I didn't like it. I associate it with other names I liked back then and don't so much anymore, so looking back at my teenage polls...
Lotus Aurelia
Mirabella Rain
Luna Melody
Lily Therese
Thisbe Avalon
Bellatrix Soleil (!) I'd forgotten I liked Bellatrix, yikes
Alora Caprice
It's a sparkly ephemeral fairy type name.
Some other names that seem kinda adjacent stylewise: Layla, Zola, Sylvie, Selene, Nova, Summer, Serenity, Skylar, Belle, Fleur, Reign, Eden, Wren, Saylor, Saoirse, Indigo, Indie, Cadence, Solange, Zendaya, Phoenix, Phaedra, Genesis, Juliet.
This message was edited 3/24/2023, 1:26 PM
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I think you’re spot on. All of those names are very effervescent and seem like names that readers would like to find in a YA fantasy novel. Camp is probably the perfect description, which isn’t terrible. Solaris is also nice.
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I don't agree that camp is a good description. To me, a camp name would be something like Adonis or Godiva. Or Greer or Vyvyan.
Soleil seems to me to be used more innocently, in a hippie-ish style, aiming for simple and pure but creative and free, not even caring about it being relatively synthetic. Camp is like, aiming to show that one is too clever and witty and well-read to respect ordinary tastes, while actually being obsessed with taste.
Soleil seems to me to be used more innocently, in a hippie-ish style, aiming for simple and pure but creative and free, not even caring about it being relatively synthetic. Camp is like, aiming to show that one is too clever and witty and well-read to respect ordinary tastes, while actually being obsessed with taste.
This message was edited 3/24/2023, 10:34 AM
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By camp, I meant like stagey/theatrical and faux-sophisticated. It has those connotations to me because Cirque du Soleil seems like it could be a prominent association for Americans who don't speak French (I'm assuming this is who is using it for the most part), and because it's French but not really used in France. I don't see that as contradictive of your free, pure, creative, synthetic and uncaring description, because that's part of my impression. A nature name that's less concerned about being showy or fancy is more like Sunny imo.
This message was edited 3/24/2023, 1:25 PM
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ohh Cirque, I didn't think of that! Now I understand how you got there.
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