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in reply to a message by Manipura
I don't have the impression that sage has a layered symbolism the way rose does. I'm splitting hairs, but that's how I would explain my feeling that Rose is more "serious" than Sage. Rose has esoteric & religious symbolism when stylized, political symbolism, and folk symbolism... it's almost not even an object-name, the image is so freighted. Detached/intangible is a good way to say it too, I guess, but also tradition gives it some gravity, for me ... Sage wasn't used as a name hardly at all until just recently, while Rose has been a name for as long as anyone can remember. Lily seems heavier than Sage to me. And Sage more than Saffron.
My impressions are limited by my cultural exposure to different things, obviously! Which doesn't amount to a preference, it's just a personal limitation on how I perceive things. I like some names that are folk-symbolic, or modern / non-traditional / non-Christian symbols, and a lot of names that are totally banal too. Crystal, Ember, Sienna, Rowan, etc
I appreciate the info you're offering about Saffron. I guess some people who like it superficially, might nerd out and look up all the symbolism, and I should appreciate that. But I wouldn't be inclined to look it up myself, just because I don't like it as a name. If I did like it a lot, I think I'd have tried to find out all about it.
I'm not really with you on assuming that it's meant to refer to the Bible because her middle is Domini. But it can't be ruled out, so, fair point!
- mirfak
My impressions are limited by my cultural exposure to different things, obviously! Which doesn't amount to a preference, it's just a personal limitation on how I perceive things. I like some names that are folk-symbolic, or modern / non-traditional / non-Christian symbols, and a lot of names that are totally banal too. Crystal, Ember, Sienna, Rowan, etc
I appreciate the info you're offering about Saffron. I guess some people who like it superficially, might nerd out and look up all the symbolism, and I should appreciate that. But I wouldn't be inclined to look it up myself, just because I don't like it as a name. If I did like it a lot, I think I'd have tried to find out all about it.
I'm not really with you on assuming that it's meant to refer to the Bible because her middle is Domini. But it can't be ruled out, so, fair point!
- mirfak
This message was edited 9/19/2022, 4:29 PM
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To me that is popular/conventional vs rare, rather than traditional/old/abstract or not...though I'd think if anything, the more a name is used, the more concrete it'd seem...but splitting hairs, and limited by cultural exposure, ok.
Anyway, I'm not meaning to argue with your impressions or personal preferences. Most names I would think of as kitschy seem like they could easily have sentimental value in some way that's commonly relatable/symbolic, though - like I didn't mean I'd assume a biblical connection, just similar cultural type sentimental associations (even though I don't personally have them), which pretty much most ancient fragrant plants have. Like I'd agree it's probably related to expense but doubt parents would name their kid Pricetag or something unless it symbolized something other than superficial expense to them, even if they liked the sound and especially next to a heavily religious middle name, so it'd make most sense to me if it did have spiritual/folk meaning, that's all (it doesn't to you, and you don't like it; ok, me neither really).
Anyway, I'm not meaning to argue with your impressions or personal preferences. Most names I would think of as kitschy seem like they could easily have sentimental value in some way that's commonly relatable/symbolic, though - like I didn't mean I'd assume a biblical connection, just similar cultural type sentimental associations (even though I don't personally have them), which pretty much most ancient fragrant plants have. Like I'd agree it's probably related to expense but doubt parents would name their kid Pricetag or something unless it symbolized something other than superficial expense to them, even if they liked the sound and especially next to a heavily religious middle name, so it'd make most sense to me if it did have spiritual/folk meaning, that's all (it doesn't to you, and you don't like it; ok, me neither really).
This message was edited 9/20/2022, 7:51 AM
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