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I feel like the recent fuss is just happening on this board. Apart from still feeling a bit old fashioned I also find it weirdly 2000s dated at the same time. To me it feels like in the 2000s every celebrity named their kid Olive. There was an Olive in "Easy A" and Olive in "Little Miss Sunshine", Isla Fisher had an Olive with Sasha Baron Cohen. Drew Barrymore had an Olive. It already feels like a thing of the past.