Re: Jack as a nickname for John
in reply to a message by 6sammie6
Jack is timeless but John is super old-fashioned so maybe they want it to more reflect their age. I've not met a John who isn't a Jonathon under the age of 30.
Still I dont get why all J names are somehow interchangeable like wtf does John and Jack have in common other than their starting letter.
Still I dont get why all J names are somehow interchangeable like wtf does John and Jack have in common other than their starting letter.
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A lot of old nicknames seem totally different from the full name. What does Peggy have in common with Margaret?
Some other nicknames that are a bit of a stretch stretch.
Bob - Robert
Ned - Edward
Billy - William
Dick - Richard
Ted - Theodore
Bessie - Elizabeth
Fanny - Frances
Molly - Mary
Nell -Eleanor
Some other nicknames that are a bit of a stretch stretch.
Bob - Robert
Ned - Edward
Billy - William
Dick - Richard
Ted - Theodore
Bessie - Elizabeth
Fanny - Frances
Molly - Mary
Nell -Eleanor
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Are you from somewhere other than the US? I assume so, because ‘I’ve not met’ is distinctly foreign sounding to me.
In 2000, John was the #3 boys name in MA, and the #14 boys name in the US. Last year it was the #27 boys name in the US. That is not old fashioned by any possible stretch of the word.
Are you from somewhere other than the US? I assume so, because ‘I’ve not met’ is distinctly foreign sounding to me.
In 2000, John was the #3 boys name in MA, and the #14 boys name in the US. Last year it was the #27 boys name in the US. That is not old fashioned by any possible stretch of the word.
"I’ve not met" doesn't sound particularly un-American. The USA is a large nation with a lot of regional variations on what is considered common phrasing.
Compared to more trendy names, John does have an old-fashioned, staid, traditional sound. I agree that it is still fairly common though.
Compared to more trendy names, John does have an old-fashioned, staid, traditional sound. I agree that it is still fairly common though.
That's funny!
Jack is not shorter than John or James but carries a less formalized connotation. As Dorchadas mentioned - diminutives or pet names are related. I have an aunt formally named Elizabeth--who prefers "Liz"; one of her many brothers couldn't pronounce the 'z' portion of Liz, so a childish name form "Lib" developed, yet I am fairly certain she is not the first Elizabeth to (accidentally) be called "Lib". During the past week, I've worn hair down, rather than my wonted formal bun. A colleague mentioned it, and as she did, she gently--perhaps playfully ruffled her fingers through it--and called me Barbie rather than Barbra (she usually calls me Barbra).
Consider Ice Cube's "MLK" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04b0rRKT6o
"Woke up in the back of a tray
On my way to MLK
That's the county hospital, "Jack"
where ____ die over a little scratch.
Jack is not shorter than John or James but carries a less formalized connotation. As Dorchadas mentioned - diminutives or pet names are related. I have an aunt formally named Elizabeth--who prefers "Liz"; one of her many brothers couldn't pronounce the 'z' portion of Liz, so a childish name form "Lib" developed, yet I am fairly certain she is not the first Elizabeth to (accidentally) be called "Lib". During the past week, I've worn hair down, rather than my wonted formal bun. A colleague mentioned it, and as she did, she gently--perhaps playfully ruffled her fingers through it--and called me Barbie rather than Barbra (she usually calls me Barbra).
Consider Ice Cube's "MLK" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04b0rRKT6o
"Woke up in the back of a tray
On my way to MLK
That's the county hospital, "Jack"
where ____ die over a little scratch.
Still I dont get why all J names are somehow interchangeable like wtf does John and Jack have in common other than their starting letter.
A lot, actually. Did you even read the information featured in the entry for Jack? It literally says that the name is derived from a medieval diminutive of John.
A lot, actually. Did you even read the information featured in the entry for Jack? It literally says that the name is derived from a medieval diminutive of John.