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Oh. I guess Ross is not as good an example of what I meant, then, as box is. I can't distinguish my "Ross" sound from my "box" or "rocks" sound. The pronunciation of Ross you've linked sounds like it rhymes the way I'd say "demitasse," not "boss."

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Whatever, they're awfully close, and distinct from the O in Rose and that is all I wanted to know.

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- mirfak