Re: Triste = Sad
in reply to a message by Malk
I'm not sure why either, but you are right, this is pretty common. I often hear that people find Trista and Tristan to be very attractive if it weren't for that pesky sadness connotation.
People don't seem half as bothered by other ones though... like "Mal", as in Mallory or Malcolm or Malachy. Yet "Mal" comes from the same root as "bad, evil, ill, etc" (those roots are not connected to to "mal" in Malcolm or Malachy at all, but neither is the "trist" in Tristan related at all to the French "triste" so go figure!)
It's very interesting.
People don't seem half as bothered by other ones though... like "Mal", as in Mallory or Malcolm or Malachy. Yet "Mal" comes from the same root as "bad, evil, ill, etc" (those roots are not connected to to "mal" in Malcolm or Malachy at all, but neither is the "trist" in Tristan related at all to the French "triste" so go figure!)
It's very interesting.
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Mal bothers me in Mallory because it actually relates to the meaning.
It doesn't bother me in Malcolm or Malachi (Malachy just doesn't look right at all) because it has no relevance to the meaning.
For Trista and Tristan, the actual meanings don't appeal to me (Why would I name a kid something that means a tumult, which is often a bunch of idiots? First thing that comes to mind is the Vancouver riot a few months ago). The other reason I don't like Tristan is that while it may be a boys' name, it sounds super-girly in style... Almost like someone made a few typos in Kristin.
It doesn't bother me in Malcolm or Malachi (Malachy just doesn't look right at all) because it has no relevance to the meaning.
For Trista and Tristan, the actual meanings don't appeal to me (Why would I name a kid something that means a tumult, which is often a bunch of idiots? First thing that comes to mind is the Vancouver riot a few months ago). The other reason I don't like Tristan is that while it may be a boys' name, it sounds super-girly in style... Almost like someone made a few typos in Kristin.
I mainly like Tristan because of Tristan and Isolde, and I think that association overshadows the "sad". I don't have any other associations for Beatriste (and it has the whole word "triste" in it, not just "triste").
I usually notice "Mal" in names. It doesn't impact whether or not I like them as names (I still like Tristan, Beatriste, etc.) but I do tend to use "Mal-" names for 'bad' characters, etc.
Also, maybe the connotations are different? I, at least, would rather have a name meaning "evil" than "sad"... although that may not be universal...
I usually notice "Mal" in names. It doesn't impact whether or not I like them as names (I still like Tristan, Beatriste, etc.) but I do tend to use "Mal-" names for 'bad' characters, etc.
Also, maybe the connotations are different? I, at least, would rather have a name meaning "evil" than "sad"... although that may not be universal...
So I had never looked up the name Mallory before and now I am both amused and horrified that my cousin was named this.
Yeah it has one of the worst meanings I have seen. Still the sound is nice and I guess most people won't know about the meaning, so I think your cousin will be fine :)