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I named my daughter Victoria, and like most parents who use the name Victoria these days, I decided I didn't want her to be called Vicky. Knowing that Victoria is a name that almost demands a nickname, I decided I wanted Torrie, to avoid people assuming she was Vicky, again like most parents these days who use the name.
But note the spelling. I had always thought of the nickname spelled in that fashion, since I had seen it in a book once when I was a teenager. I can't abide the Tori spelling. It drives me insane.
My in-laws, from the time my daughter was a baby, spelled it Tori when they would send her greeting cards and such. Every time, I would complain to my husband that I couldn't abide that spelling and I wished they would stop. I finally told my mother-in-law that I was spelling it Torrie, and she looked at me like I had lost my mind.
Then when Torrie was about twelve, she decided that she wanted to spell it Tori, I think influenced by Tori Spelling. (Remember, she was twelve.) I kicked up such a fuss that we compromised on Torie. For a long time she spelled it that way, but finally reverted back to Torrie.
Now, I will admit that Tori makes more sense, in that the letters T,O, R, and I are actually contained in the name Victoria, while Torrie adds extra letters. Still, I just can't stand Tori.
Well, with all this talk of creative spellings, and mispelled names, I got to wondering. Do you consider Torrie a misspelling? Do you consider it cre8tively spelled?
Which do you like better, Tori or Torrie?
But note the spelling. I had always thought of the nickname spelled in that fashion, since I had seen it in a book once when I was a teenager. I can't abide the Tori spelling. It drives me insane.
My in-laws, from the time my daughter was a baby, spelled it Tori when they would send her greeting cards and such. Every time, I would complain to my husband that I couldn't abide that spelling and I wished they would stop. I finally told my mother-in-law that I was spelling it Torrie, and she looked at me like I had lost my mind.
Then when Torrie was about twelve, she decided that she wanted to spell it Tori, I think influenced by Tori Spelling. (Remember, she was twelve.) I kicked up such a fuss that we compromised on Torie. For a long time she spelled it that way, but finally reverted back to Torrie.
Now, I will admit that Tori makes more sense, in that the letters T,O, R, and I are actually contained in the name Victoria, while Torrie adds extra letters. Still, I just can't stand Tori.
Well, with all this talk of creative spellings, and mispelled names, I got to wondering. Do you consider Torrie a misspelling? Do you consider it cre8tively spelled?
Which do you like better, Tori or Torrie?
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It's her name, she likes Tori, it's spelled Tori. That's all I see to it. You shouldn't be telling a kid how to spell her nickname, for goodness sake. It's a nickname. The spelling could change every day and it wouldn't matter. (Granted, I am finicky about the spelling of some nicknames, like Kate, but if I ever have a daughter who wants to be Cayt, it's her choice to look like a character from Mists of Avalon.) Course, you said that she liked it when she was twelve, so that doesn't really apply now, unless she's still into Tori over Torrie. But honestly...compromising on how she spells her own nickname? That's very controlling.
To answer the question, I prefer Tori because it's neater looking (Torrie looks messy) and don't like the nickname at all. I love Victoria, though.
To answer the question, I prefer Tori because it's neater looking (Torrie looks messy) and don't like the nickname at all. I love Victoria, though.
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Funny thing is, I am far from a controlling parent in general. I was raised by lenient parents, and I just naturally continued that parenting style when I had children. I guess maybe it was controlling to object to the spelling of the name, but if so, it was definitely an exception to my usual parenting methods.
Yeah, Torrie does prefer Torrie now that she is an adult. The Torie thing was pretty much relegated to her teen years.
Yeah, Torrie does prefer Torrie now that she is an adult. The Torie thing was pretty much relegated to her teen years.
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I've always thought that Tori looked funny too. Kind of annoying. Like when people use an -i only instead of -ie or -y. Like Abbi or Judi or Kari. It just looks incomplete to have a name end in -i.
I do think that Torrie looks nicer. But I'd say that Torrie is I guess a mispelling, since Tori is the traditional way to spell it, but in the case of nicknames, it's not a huge deal to me. I guess because it's not an official name. If you'd spelled her full name Victorriea, then I'd have a problem. :)
I do think that Torrie looks nicer. But I'd say that Torrie is I guess a mispelling, since Tori is the traditional way to spell it, but in the case of nicknames, it's not a huge deal to me. I guess because it's not an official name. If you'd spelled her full name Victorriea, then I'd have a problem. :)
This message was edited 5/21/2008, 6:15 AM
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What about Torri as a compromise?
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I consider it a serious misspelling, I would rhyme Torrie with "lorry", whereas Tori sounds like TOUR-ee, to rhyme with Cory which is what I think you are aiming for. Torrie sounds more like a nn for Torrence or something similar. Also, I think if the alternative spelling of a nn bothered me so much I probably wouldn't use the name. I love Oliver and whilst I'm not crazy about the nn Ollie, I accept that it will be almost inevitable. I wouldn't mind if it was spelt Ollie or Oli or Olly or whatever, though. If you wanted such a specific spelling maybe you should have given it to her as a fn? Gosh, sorry for such a long post! To sum up, lol, yes I think it is a misspelling as it changes the pronunciation completely for me.
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I confess I don't like Torrie at all. It seems contrived, because (as you say) Tori is what's contained within Victoria. And they'd be pronounced differenty where I live anyway. I think Tori and Tory are fine. I would love Tory if it weren't for the political party here.
Unfortunately, if you choose a non-standard spelling, other people getting it wrong is part and parcel. Name nerds like ourselves are good at remembering spellings, but other people, not so much.
To me, a misspelling is a mistake. Tori is the misspelling, when people use it, since your daughter's name is Torrie.
Unfortunately, if you choose a non-standard spelling, other people getting it wrong is part and parcel. Name nerds like ourselves are good at remembering spellings, but other people, not so much.
To me, a misspelling is a mistake. Tori is the misspelling, when people use it, since your daughter's name is Torrie.
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Personally, I don't see why you shouldn't let your child choose what she wants to be called herself. I mean..it's her name and she's old enough to realise that. Why can't she choose to spell it how she wants to?
My first name is Ceinwen, but I usually go by CJ as it's easier for people to say / spell / remember. My parents didn't influence my choice, they said I was my name to do with as I wished and had no problem with my going by another name unofficially. My family knows me by my full name, but friends, coworkers etc. as CJ. I've never had any problems with this arrangement.
My first name is Ceinwen, but I usually go by CJ as it's easier for people to say / spell / remember. My parents didn't influence my choice, they said I was my name to do with as I wished and had no problem with my going by another name unofficially. My family knows me by my full name, but friends, coworkers etc. as CJ. I've never had any problems with this arrangement.
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As a nick, Torrie / Tory / Torie / Tori can be spelled any way at all. It doesn't necessarily have to be true to VicTORIa. Overall, I prefer Tori.
BTW, my Victoria (who goes by her mn Brooke) would have been called Tori. She told me a few years ago that as she has gotten older she wouldn't have wanted that any longer because it's so girlish (ending 'ie' sound). Rather, she would have preferred Toria or Tora. I've only heard of one Toria (local tv reporter) and would actually like to see that more often.
BTW, my Victoria (who goes by her mn Brooke) would have been called Tori. She told me a few years ago that as she has gotten older she wouldn't have wanted that any longer because it's so girlish (ending 'ie' sound). Rather, she would have preferred Toria or Tora. I've only heard of one Toria (local tv reporter) and would actually like to see that more often.
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Torrie to me suggests a different pronunciation from Tori.
You could use Torey or Torie, but I can't see what's so objectionable about the more obvious and less contrived Tori unless it's the Hollywood babe connection.
You could use Torey or Torie, but I can't see what's so objectionable about the more obvious and less contrived Tori unless it's the Hollywood babe connection.
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I'm not sure about pronounciation issues, not being an English native speaker. I wouldn't say Torrie is a "mispelling" since it's just a nickname anyway, but Tori feels more "standard" I guess.
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Oh my goodness
I'm sorry to say this but I would never ever wanted to be your daughter. Such a fuss just because of spelling of one stupid nickname? I don't even want to imagine what you'd do if your daughter decided to go by Vicky. LOL. I appreciate my parents even more now.
And btw I've got a parrot named Tori but it's not a nn from Victoria, Tori means "bird" in Japanese. Torrie just looks made-up to me.
I'm sorry to say this but I would never ever wanted to be your daughter. Such a fuss just because of spelling of one stupid nickname? I don't even want to imagine what you'd do if your daughter decided to go by Vicky. LOL. I appreciate my parents even more now.
And btw I've got a parrot named Tori but it's not a nn from Victoria, Tori means "bird" in Japanese. Torrie just looks made-up to me.
This message was edited 5/21/2008, 3:14 AM
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Actually, I would have much less of a problem if she did decide to go by Vicky, than to use the spelling Tori. I did not hate Vicky, I just preferred Torrie. And I have always been the one to say that if you despise a certain nickname, then you should not use the full name, because despite your desires, your child might end up being called by that nickname. So Vicky would not have bothered me so much.
The problem with Tori is that I did not even realize that that spelling existed when I used the name Victoria. I thought everyone spelled it Torrie. When my in-laws started using Tori, I thought they were being stupid and ignorant. Then I started seeing Tori everywhere! I dont know, I just think naming a child is one of the priveleges of parenthood, and I did not want to cringe every time I saw my daughters name spelled out.
Dang apostrophe key.
The problem with Tori is that I did not even realize that that spelling existed when I used the name Victoria. I thought everyone spelled it Torrie. When my in-laws started using Tori, I thought they were being stupid and ignorant. Then I started seeing Tori everywhere! I dont know, I just think naming a child is one of the priveleges of parenthood, and I did not want to cringe every time I saw my daughters name spelled out.
Dang apostrophe key.
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LOL
I... sort of agree. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to have a mom who wanted to control my nickname, but I do think you were a bit out of line.
I think Tori makes more sense, but there's nothing wrong or counterintuitive about Torrie - I don't think it's "kr8v" or whatever spelling us hipsters are using at all, or even bordering on it. And the pronunciation problem is not there for Americans at all, so.
One of the reasons I never shortlisted Victoria is because I dislike both Vicky and Tori :( I do think it's possible to go without a nickname though, our Bernadette seems to.
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I... sort of agree. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to have a mom who wanted to control my nickname, but I do think you were a bit out of line.
I think Tori makes more sense, but there's nothing wrong or counterintuitive about Torrie - I don't think it's "kr8v" or whatever spelling us hipsters are using at all, or even bordering on it. And the pronunciation problem is not there for Americans at all, so.
One of the reasons I never shortlisted Victoria is because I dislike both Vicky and Tori :( I do think it's possible to go without a nickname though, our Bernadette seems to.
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This message was edited 5/21/2008, 6:50 AM
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I don't like the spelling Torrie simply because according to Australian English phonetics, Torrie should be TO-ree, not TAW-ree which I imagine is how you're pronouncing it. Tori and Torie, because they have one 'r', are pronounced TAW-ree, the same as the syllables in Victoria (vik-TAW-ree-uh).
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I don't think there's any difference for many Americans.
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Agree
At least for me. I'd pronounce Torrie and Tori the same (TOR-ee). Which are also pronounced the same as Tory, and the end of Victoria (vik-TOR-ee-uh).
At least for me. I'd pronounce Torrie and Tori the same (TOR-ee). Which are also pronounced the same as Tory, and the end of Victoria (vik-TOR-ee-uh).
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Ditto.
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Ditto, I was just about to say the same thing.
Except without the reference to Australian phonetics! Torrie looks like it should rhyme with lorry to me, whereas Tori would be like Tory as in the political party.
Except without the reference to Australian phonetics! Torrie looks like it should rhyme with lorry to me, whereas Tori would be like Tory as in the political party.
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Ditto -
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Yah, exactly :-)
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To be honest I would pronounce Tori and Torrie slightly differently. I would pronounce Tori with more emphasis on the first syllable (TOR-ee) and Torrie with a shorter first syllable (to-REE). I actually prefer the second pronunciation.
As to which spelling I prefer? Its much of a muchness. Neither does a lot for me (I love Victoria, but Tori is too 80s) but I think I would lean towards Torrie mainly because it seems less 80s and far less Tori Spelling.
As to which spelling I prefer? Its much of a muchness. Neither does a lot for me (I love Victoria, but Tori is too 80s) but I think I would lean towards Torrie mainly because it seems less 80s and far less Tori Spelling.
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I prefer Tori, but I don't think of Torrie as being kre8tive. I think with nicknames it doesn't matter which letters are in the name. Missy is a common nickname for Melissa, but there is no y in Melissa. Of course, there is also Bill as a nn for William. And then, I've always wondered how people get Hank out of Henry. There are also children whose nicknames have nothing to do with their name. My grandpa's name is Sanford William, but he has always been called Bud.
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My father was named Joseph, but he always went by Bud. He said that when he was a child back in the 30s, Buddy was a popular nickname (he was Buddy when he was a child) because of a popular song called, "My Buddy." I just love Bud, but only as a nickname.
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I think Torrie is definately on the edge of misspelled and creative..but mostly is just makes he think of the 'political' party. Whereas Tori doesn't bring that to mind at all (but it does bring to ming Tori Spelling) I think it's the double r's that do it.
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