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I don't care for Neil on a baby either. I know a couple Neils and only one is under 30, the others are 45+. It sounds outdated, and I just don't care for it. When I hear it, I think kneel, not a name; but it is better than Cornelius.
I am in complete agreement on the trendy Hadyn/Jayden/Kaden, and absolutely hate those names. I also dislike Brandon, Kevin, Tyler and other common names. I like unusual names that have a history, not a made-up name. But I don't like completely odd names that would be overly prominent on a roll call. For example, I consider Silas a classic, but uncommon name. It wouldn't garner much teasing and could be modernized with the nn Si (which I don't like, but the boy might) and has a more simple sound. To me (and I know it's completely subjective) Silas is an interesting unusual name, but not at all weird. People have heard of it. Cornelius isn't completely unheard of, but it's sounds old and cumbersome... I don't know how to explain it.
I am in complete agreement on the trendy Hadyn/Jayden/Kaden, and absolutely hate those names. I also dislike Brandon, Kevin, Tyler and other common names. I like unusual names that have a history, not a made-up name. But I don't like completely odd names that would be overly prominent on a roll call. For example, I consider Silas a classic, but uncommon name. It wouldn't garner much teasing and could be modernized with the nn Si (which I don't like, but the boy might) and has a more simple sound. To me (and I know it's completely subjective) Silas is an interesting unusual name, but not at all weird. People have heard of it. Cornelius isn't completely unheard of, but it's sounds old and cumbersome... I don't know how to explain it.
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"unfashionable."
that's the word you're looking for.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=silas&submit=Go
A lot of parents are thinking like you, hon :P
I like names that are completely contrary to current trends, and Cornelius is that. Everything that is in style now, Cornelius is not. Silas is (and Silas is fine, I like it quite well) short, biblical, slightly feminine, and has the super cool Si- next to it. Cornelius? none of those things. That is what I love about it. Cornelius stands alone in a class of the top 100. Old and cumbersome - yes! That is what modern american naming is opposed to, above all else - old names, heavy names. ("character," says Emma.)
I don't like Neil. but it makes Cornelius usable, a lot moreso than Corny. I know a Cornelius who didn't use a nickname though, no one made fun of him and called him corny
that's the word you're looking for.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=silas&submit=Go
A lot of parents are thinking like you, hon :P
I like names that are completely contrary to current trends, and Cornelius is that. Everything that is in style now, Cornelius is not. Silas is (and Silas is fine, I like it quite well) short, biblical, slightly feminine, and has the super cool Si- next to it. Cornelius? none of those things. That is what I love about it. Cornelius stands alone in a class of the top 100. Old and cumbersome - yes! That is what modern american naming is opposed to, above all else - old names, heavy names. ("character," says Emma.)
I don't like Neil. but it makes Cornelius usable, a lot moreso than Corny. I know a Cornelius who didn't use a nickname though, no one made fun of him and called him corny
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That's kinda cool, actully
The fact that your favorite names are generally opposite of current trends. I never really noticed that, but now that you mention it, it's painfully obvious. Griselda is actually seeming pretty darn cool right now, actually!
The fact that your favorite names are generally opposite of current trends. I never really noticed that, but now that you mention it, it's painfully obvious. Griselda is actually seeming pretty darn cool right now, actually!
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Nope, not "unfashionable"
Because if I were "fashionable", I would like Hadyn/Kaden/Aiden :P Maybe it's the "corn" sound that I dislike in Cornelius, or maybe the "kneel" sound. I like a lot names ending in -us, but just don't care for the sound of this one. It sounds cumbersome to my ears.
I think of Silas as being completely untrendy. I've never known anyone named Silas, and certainly not a child. I'm shocked that Silas is increasing in popularity, I hadn't heard it anywhere but by reading the New Testament. I swear everyone steals my ideas before I can use them. I wanted to make a St. Paddy's day t-shirt that said, "Don't kiss me, I'm not Irish," but someone beat me to that too. I didn't know this site had those popularity charts, though. Thanks for posting it.
But I like what I like because I like it, not because it's fashionable, but because it suits me and my husband. That said, I have taken names off my list when it's had an obvious increase on the social security list or if a celebrity uses it. We wouldn't use a name we don't like (like Mephibosheth) solely because it's unfashionable and uncommon. But we will reject a name that we do like if there are hints that it may be becoming a trend.
Because if I were "fashionable", I would like Hadyn/Kaden/Aiden :P Maybe it's the "corn" sound that I dislike in Cornelius, or maybe the "kneel" sound. I like a lot names ending in -us, but just don't care for the sound of this one. It sounds cumbersome to my ears.
I think of Silas as being completely untrendy. I've never known anyone named Silas, and certainly not a child. I'm shocked that Silas is increasing in popularity, I hadn't heard it anywhere but by reading the New Testament. I swear everyone steals my ideas before I can use them. I wanted to make a St. Paddy's day t-shirt that said, "Don't kiss me, I'm not Irish," but someone beat me to that too. I didn't know this site had those popularity charts, though. Thanks for posting it.
But I like what I like because I like it, not because it's fashionable, but because it suits me and my husband. That said, I have taken names off my list when it's had an obvious increase on the social security list or if a celebrity uses it. We wouldn't use a name we don't like (like Mephibosheth) solely because it's unfashionable and uncommon. But we will reject a name that we do like if there are hints that it may be becoming a trend.
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The "corn" sound is unfashionable. So is the "kneel."
LOL I just got through a long post praising American naming. There are a LOT of trends that I really like a lot. Long, open vowels, names uncluttered with consonants, old biblical gems reused, names starting with vowels, short simple names, pretty 80 year old names. I think a lot of names in the top 20 are great.
You might be surprised. Check out Isaiah.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=isaiah&submit=Go
Jeremiah's more popular than Jeremy.
Even Nehemiah's scooting rapidly up the charts.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=nehemiah&submit=Go
Josiah's almost broke the top 100.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=Josiah&submit=Go
A lot of people who like these great names do not realize that they are trendy/fashionable. Check out Milo. Check out Scarlett. Check out Adelaide. They like them because they are great names.
Silas is becoming a trend. Do not reject it because of that. It is a fine trend. There is nothing wrong with trendy names. I prefer my "listed" names (ones I would use) to contradict trends because I love all sorts of names, trendy, nontrendy, unknown, and counter-trend, and in the interest of balance I favor countertrend in practical application.
(Incidentally, my number one name, Simon, seems pretty amazingly steady despite the trend that's grabbing up Silas, Isaiah, and -n names. I wasquite pleasantly surprised to see this! However, if it did become trendy I wouldn't mind.)
LOL I just got through a long post praising American naming. There are a LOT of trends that I really like a lot. Long, open vowels, names uncluttered with consonants, old biblical gems reused, names starting with vowels, short simple names, pretty 80 year old names. I think a lot of names in the top 20 are great.
You might be surprised. Check out Isaiah.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=isaiah&submit=Go
Jeremiah's more popular than Jeremy.
Even Nehemiah's scooting rapidly up the charts.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=nehemiah&submit=Go
Josiah's almost broke the top 100.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=Josiah&submit=Go
A lot of people who like these great names do not realize that they are trendy/fashionable. Check out Milo. Check out Scarlett. Check out Adelaide. They like them because they are great names.
Silas is becoming a trend. Do not reject it because of that. It is a fine trend. There is nothing wrong with trendy names. I prefer my "listed" names (ones I would use) to contradict trends because I love all sorts of names, trendy, nontrendy, unknown, and counter-trend, and in the interest of balance I favor countertrend in practical application.
(Incidentally, my number one name, Simon, seems pretty amazingly steady despite the trend that's grabbing up Silas, Isaiah, and -n names. I wasquite pleasantly surprised to see this! However, if it did become trendy I wouldn't mind.)
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Oh, Simon was always my favorite! and I love the nn Sim. But, it sounds rhymey with our last name (ends in "en" sound). So, I can't use it. I tried to convince my husband to use Simone (Italian form of Simon pronounced SEE-mo-nay), but he wouldn't go for it. Now, I just try to work the intials into SIM, so I can still have the nn Sim.
And Adelaide! I never heard anyone else mention Adelaide until I came to these boards; and it's on everyone's list. I read the Anne of Green Gables books and all other LM Montgomery books since childhood. Adelaide was a name mentioned in one of the books, and I've loved that name since I was 10 years old.
I'm convinced that Scarlett is becoming a trend just because a newer celebrity bears the name (Johansen).
Wow, I can't believe Nehemiah is coming up the charts. Actually, I do know a Nehemiah, about 12 years old, I think.
I refuse to use a trendy name. I think it would be horrible to be one of 5 Emilys/Madisons/Aidens in a class. Every time I'm shopping, I hear a mother calling for a Madison. I haven't noticed any Aidens in our region, but I do know a Cade, 2 Kadens, a Braeden, and a Hadyn. I'm not rejecting Silas yet. #346 is a ways down on the charts, so I don't consider it a trend yet. We'll see. I'm just so afraid of a name boom of my name right when I name my child. I guess everyone has to be scared of something.
And Adelaide! I never heard anyone else mention Adelaide until I came to these boards; and it's on everyone's list. I read the Anne of Green Gables books and all other LM Montgomery books since childhood. Adelaide was a name mentioned in one of the books, and I've loved that name since I was 10 years old.
I'm convinced that Scarlett is becoming a trend just because a newer celebrity bears the name (Johansen).
Wow, I can't believe Nehemiah is coming up the charts. Actually, I do know a Nehemiah, about 12 years old, I think.
I refuse to use a trendy name. I think it would be horrible to be one of 5 Emilys/Madisons/Aidens in a class. Every time I'm shopping, I hear a mother calling for a Madison. I haven't noticed any Aidens in our region, but I do know a Cade, 2 Kadens, a Braeden, and a Hadyn. I'm not rejecting Silas yet. #346 is a ways down on the charts, so I don't consider it a trend yet. We'll see. I'm just so afraid of a name boom of my name right when I name my child. I guess everyone has to be scared of something.
This message was edited 5/19/2008, 5:41 PM
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