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HelpTarquin? (also, out of curiousity,)
I just randomly thought of Tarquin yesterday when Ii was thinking of first names for Lapis Lazuli. I had to come to BTN and make sure that it was actually a name, not a title or a word I had just made up. Yay! It's a name! I am very intrigued by it. What do you guys think? And what about Tarquin Lapis Lazuli? (Please do not pull the "ner ner ner it's not usable fufffffffffffffffff" argument, I am not interested in it.)
Also, I am curious about your opinions on (individually) Cecilia, Joan, Minerva, Benedict, and Cornelius. None of these are new but I don't think I have ever directly asked for opinions on them and I am v. v. v. curious.
Also, I am curious about your opinions on (individually) Cecilia, Joan, Minerva, Benedict, and Cornelius. None of these are new but I don't think I have ever directly asked for opinions on them and I am v. v. v. curious.
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Tarquin: I have mixed feelings on the name. On one hand I find it very cool and romantic, on the other it's just...too romantic and cool. I just don't see it as an approachable name. And putting Tarquin Lapis Lazuli together...well it screams "batty new age momma," original 1960s hippy with brain damage from drugs or really bad romance novel. Sorry.
Minerva: A favorite, something I've liked for a long time. Great goddess, good meaning and a very cool name. I thought of using it in the past, however the fact that it's not at all biblical gets it knocked down a few pegs. But that's me. And I would love to meet a little Minerva.
Benedict: I'm seeing this everywhere on the boards lately, in all different kinds of forms. I can't get behind it, especially with the new pope (whom I highly dislike). If it wasn't for the damn Pope I would like it...but again, it's everywhere.
Cornelius: Eh. Extraordinary pretentious to me while being working class at the same time. It straddles both lines, cool namesakes and is a decent name...just not something I personally like. Very southern to me.
Joan: I'm a Jean girl, merely because I love the '20s. Joan is lovely, though. I love the Saints associated with the name and its' history. I also like the fact that you rarely if ever see it. As long as you don't use Joanie. Joan is beautiful and womanly, Joanie is whiny and little girlish.
Cecilia: I'm slowly coming around to the name, much to my horror. :-D I've begun researching different namesakes because of you and now it has that powerful woman aura to it that I like so much. It's quite strong, if still a little prissy to me. I still associate it with a certain type of parent, which is unfortunate. Just...no CeeCee or Lia, please. :-D Oh, and NO Cissy!
Of these my favorite would be Joan, as it's simple, down to earth and practical. :-D (How I ended up this way is beyond me!)
Minerva: A favorite, something I've liked for a long time. Great goddess, good meaning and a very cool name. I thought of using it in the past, however the fact that it's not at all biblical gets it knocked down a few pegs. But that's me. And I would love to meet a little Minerva.
Benedict: I'm seeing this everywhere on the boards lately, in all different kinds of forms. I can't get behind it, especially with the new pope (whom I highly dislike). If it wasn't for the damn Pope I would like it...but again, it's everywhere.
Cornelius: Eh. Extraordinary pretentious to me while being working class at the same time. It straddles both lines, cool namesakes and is a decent name...just not something I personally like. Very southern to me.
Joan: I'm a Jean girl, merely because I love the '20s. Joan is lovely, though. I love the Saints associated with the name and its' history. I also like the fact that you rarely if ever see it. As long as you don't use Joanie. Joan is beautiful and womanly, Joanie is whiny and little girlish.
Cecilia: I'm slowly coming around to the name, much to my horror. :-D I've begun researching different namesakes because of you and now it has that powerful woman aura to it that I like so much. It's quite strong, if still a little prissy to me. I still associate it with a certain type of parent, which is unfortunate. Just...no CeeCee or Lia, please. :-D Oh, and NO Cissy!
Of these my favorite would be Joan, as it's simple, down to earth and practical. :-D (How I ended up this way is beyond me!)
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LOL good.
Cecilia Joan is actually one of my very very favorite combinations, and I have always liked Judith Cecilia a lot, so Joan Cecilia is a bit jarring - but quite nice! Joan does fit in with your other favorites very well.
I am SO GLAD you're finally coming around to Cecilia! it is a gem. (It's funny about Cecilia, isn't it? I thought she and Simon would be shooting up the charts, or at least swelling a bit. But they're perfectly steady, Simon at 200 and Cecilia at 250. I am so chuffed!)
Nicknames are a turnoff for me D: I especially hate Lia argh
but I think Cecilia works without them. Especially if you say it 3 syllables.
Benedict is a bit everywhere on BTN. But hey, ...I still love it! :D Nothing wrong with being trendy.
Cecilia Joan is actually one of my very very favorite combinations, and I have always liked Judith Cecilia a lot, so Joan Cecilia is a bit jarring - but quite nice! Joan does fit in with your other favorites very well.
I am SO GLAD you're finally coming around to Cecilia! it is a gem. (It's funny about Cecilia, isn't it? I thought she and Simon would be shooting up the charts, or at least swelling a bit. But they're perfectly steady, Simon at 200 and Cecilia at 250. I am so chuffed!)
Nicknames are a turnoff for me D: I especially hate Lia argh
but I think Cecilia works without them. Especially if you say it 3 syllables.
Benedict is a bit everywhere on BTN. But hey, ...I still love it! :D Nothing wrong with being trendy.
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Surprised with Simon.
It's on my list merely because it's a name X and I can somewhat agree on, but I've always found it borderline trendy...and definitely has a very "In" sound to it.
And thanks for the kudos on Judith Cecilia. I've become more hesitant about using Judith, which is annoying me. I love the name, love the namesakes but everyone's opinions about it being "too heavy" are getting to me. :-/
It's on my list merely because it's a name X and I can somewhat agree on, but I've always found it borderline trendy...and definitely has a very "In" sound to it.
And thanks for the kudos on Judith Cecilia. I've become more hesitant about using Judith, which is annoying me. I love the name, love the namesakes but everyone's opinions about it being "too heavy" are getting to me. :-/
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Like it, but the historical Tarquin really wasn't a good namesake, which would put me off. Also, here in Britain it's a total stereotype for a posh idiot, though not quite so badly hit as Rupert in that respect.
Tarquin Lapis-Lazuli is I think a touch over the top, though quite awesome. On a side topic, can I interest you in Tarquin and Torquil as an uber-GP twinset? It came to me recently and I love it more and more guiltily every time either name is mentioned :D
Cecilia I like, though it seems to generally have better rhythm in the MN spot.
Joan I do not like at all, despite the awesome quotient of Joan of Arc. I much prefer Jean.
Minerva I love the idea of, not so much the sound; would be thrilled to meet a little Minerva one of these days.
Benedict I love, again most usually as a MN, though now I think of it Benedict nn Ben would be an easy way round that. And another great namesake (close enough) in the Much Ado character. (My parents know a sibset in their 40s called Alcuin, Benedict, Cyprian, Fabian and Gabriel. Nobody knows what happened to D and E.)
Cornelius I don't like the sound of, but again, would be overjoyed to meet one just for the general wow factor.
Tarquin Lapis-Lazuli is I think a touch over the top, though quite awesome. On a side topic, can I interest you in Tarquin and Torquil as an uber-GP twinset? It came to me recently and I love it more and more guiltily every time either name is mentioned :D
Cecilia I like, though it seems to generally have better rhythm in the MN spot.
Joan I do not like at all, despite the awesome quotient of Joan of Arc. I much prefer Jean.
Minerva I love the idea of, not so much the sound; would be thrilled to meet a little Minerva one of these days.
Benedict I love, again most usually as a MN, though now I think of it Benedict nn Ben would be an easy way round that. And another great namesake (close enough) in the Much Ado character. (My parents know a sibset in their 40s called Alcuin, Benedict, Cyprian, Fabian and Gabriel. Nobody knows what happened to D and E.)
Cornelius I don't like the sound of, but again, would be overjoyed to meet one just for the general wow factor.
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Gah!
You love Lapis Lazuli, too!? I thought I was the only one! It would just make such a cool double middle name for a boy, I totally agree. The sound of Tarquin is generally nms (it reminds me of harlequin), but is ok I guess. I really can't say much, considering how I'm going to be the one here to name her first son Constantine LOL... most of society (mainly those NOT from BtN) think I'm flat out nuts, but that's unrelated. Anyway, here are those opinions you asked for:
Cecilia -- I've never really liked it, but would still be happy to see it amongst all the Madisons of today.
Joan -- I may not be very religious (at all), but there is no denying that Joan of Arc was one hell of a woman! If I were ever to name my daughter after somebody / something specifically Christian, it would be Joan.
Minerva -- We all know about my stubbornness of -er, -or, -ar, -er (damn it feels like I'm conjugating words in Spanish here) sounds, but Minerva would just be so undeniably cool to see. If, many years in the future, you DO use this name, you have to tell us all and we'll have a wild party cause it's awesome.
Benedict -- Arnold! But I know you're sick of people saying that. Honestly, I love the sound, but the sandwich and backstabber always come to mind, despite it's nice qualities. Again, I'd still be thrilled (and I really mean it) to meet a young Benedict.
Cornelius -- Believe it or not, I know a Cornelius. He goes by the nn Corny (and loves it, go figure). I really don't like the sound because of the -or deal, but again, just like all of your other choices, it would be such a thrill to see it used.
You love Lapis Lazuli, too!? I thought I was the only one! It would just make such a cool double middle name for a boy, I totally agree. The sound of Tarquin is generally nms (it reminds me of harlequin), but is ok I guess. I really can't say much, considering how I'm going to be the one here to name her first son Constantine LOL... most of society (mainly those NOT from BtN) think I'm flat out nuts, but that's unrelated. Anyway, here are those opinions you asked for:
Cecilia -- I've never really liked it, but would still be happy to see it amongst all the Madisons of today.
Joan -- I may not be very religious (at all), but there is no denying that Joan of Arc was one hell of a woman! If I were ever to name my daughter after somebody / something specifically Christian, it would be Joan.
Minerva -- We all know about my stubbornness of -er, -or, -ar, -er (damn it feels like I'm conjugating words in Spanish here) sounds, but Minerva would just be so undeniably cool to see. If, many years in the future, you DO use this name, you have to tell us all and we'll have a wild party cause it's awesome.
Benedict -- Arnold! But I know you're sick of people saying that. Honestly, I love the sound, but the sandwich and backstabber always come to mind, despite it's nice qualities. Again, I'd still be thrilled (and I really mean it) to meet a young Benedict.
Cornelius -- Believe it or not, I know a Cornelius. He goes by the nn Corny (and loves it, go figure). I really don't like the sound because of the -or deal, but again, just like all of your other choices, it would be such a thrill to see it used.
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I think you inspired it.
...and Constantine too.
*quietly adds Constantine to PNL*
..:D
..I know a girl who wants to name her daughter Konstantine. It drives me insane. She gets really defensive every time I try to talk her out of the K or out of the girliness.
Yes, the -er -or- ar sounds are quite out of fashion today. I am going to do a quick project and see if I can ctrl+F ANY er's in the top 500 that don't close of occupational surnames. Here goes:
..Okay also on the ends of names like Christopher. Emphasized ones, is what I mean.
Okay here goes:
Jeremiah, which I do not count because it is Jair, and long a is so popular. besides it's not emphasized
Ditto Eric
157 Fernando I almost count
Same 197 Sergio
218 Roberto (but these are all long A's!)
Okay to be fair there aren't a LOT of er- emphasized syllabels altogether. Still - where are all the Ernestines? I want some Ernestines!
Do not worry, I will use Minerva and you will all know. :D
The funny thing about Joan of Arc was that her name was actually Jeanne. I wonder sometimes why we decided to call her Joan instead of Jane or Joanna.
LOL, Corny? Really? Well that is fine for him. Neil seems more intuitive for me. The cor- sound has grown on me a LOT after I began trying to work in honoring a Cory into my names. (Cory is still really dreadful though.) I know a Cornelius too, except I haven't seen him in years, I don't know if he got out of middle school. He just used his whole name.
...and Constantine too.
*quietly adds Constantine to PNL*
..:D
..I know a girl who wants to name her daughter Konstantine. It drives me insane. She gets really defensive every time I try to talk her out of the K or out of the girliness.
Yes, the -er -or- ar sounds are quite out of fashion today. I am going to do a quick project and see if I can ctrl+F ANY er's in the top 500 that don't close of occupational surnames. Here goes:
..Okay also on the ends of names like Christopher. Emphasized ones, is what I mean.
Okay here goes:
Jeremiah, which I do not count because it is Jair, and long a is so popular. besides it's not emphasized
Ditto Eric
157 Fernando I almost count
Same 197 Sergio
218 Roberto (but these are all long A's!)
Okay to be fair there aren't a LOT of er- emphasized syllabels altogether. Still - where are all the Ernestines? I want some Ernestines!
Do not worry, I will use Minerva and you will all know. :D
The funny thing about Joan of Arc was that her name was actually Jeanne. I wonder sometimes why we decided to call her Joan instead of Jane or Joanna.
LOL, Corny? Really? Well that is fine for him. Neil seems more intuitive for me. The cor- sound has grown on me a LOT after I began trying to work in honoring a Cory into my names. (Cory is still really dreadful though.) I know a Cornelius too, except I haven't seen him in years, I don't know if he got out of middle school. He just used his whole name.
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*is super proud*
Come to think of it, I might have inspired it. I do recall a post a long time ago with all of my GPs, including Lapis Lazuli. Glad to know it rubbed off on somebody! But Constantine, growl, my name! LOL just kidding, but I get first dibs for kids! I do like Sergio, but you're right, it's like an AIR sound, not an AR sound. And concerning Joan, why the heck DO we call her Joan? Jeanne is so much cooler, in my opinion. Oh well, not much we can do now.
Come to think of it, I might have inspired it. I do recall a post a long time ago with all of my GPs, including Lapis Lazuli. Glad to know it rubbed off on somebody! But Constantine, growl, my name! LOL just kidding, but I get first dibs for kids! I do like Sergio, but you're right, it's like an AIR sound, not an AR sound. And concerning Joan, why the heck DO we call her Joan? Jeanne is so much cooler, in my opinion. Oh well, not much we can do now.
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Tarquin - Tarquin is really neat. I would never use it, but it's nice.
Lapis Lazuli - Names like this are generally nmsaa so I won't comment further.
Cecilia - I love Cecilia. Very classic and musical.
Joan - The sound of Joan doesn't appeal to me at all. I love Jane, though.
Minerva - I like it, but the "erv" sound bothers me for some reason. Minnie is a great nn.
Benedict - Very nice. I think it's a great alternative to Benjamin.
Cornelius - I love this. It's a little long, but I think Neil could be a nn. I love Cornelia, too.
Lapis Lazuli - Names like this are generally nmsaa so I won't comment further.
Cecilia - I love Cecilia. Very classic and musical.
Joan - The sound of Joan doesn't appeal to me at all. I love Jane, though.
Minerva - I like it, but the "erv" sound bothers me for some reason. Minnie is a great nn.
Benedict - Very nice. I think it's a great alternative to Benjamin.
Cornelius - I love this. It's a little long, but I think Neil could be a nn. I love Cornelia, too.
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I adore Tarquin, think it's handsome and cool. I don't like Lapis Lazuli. I think it's a bit silly sounding/looking. I wouldn't have a problem if you split it up: Tarquin Lapis or Tarquin Lazuli.
I adore Cecilia, Joan, Benedict & Cornelius and am fond of Minerva but am mildly afraid of her, she's awfully steely and hard, beautiful though. Cecilia & Cornelius are on my own lists, Joan is one I'm wishing would come back. I like her open, round tones and find she meshes well with a lot of names. Benedict I liked more before the new Pope, he's a bit off-putting to this non christian. But Benedict is still my favorite way to get to Ben.
I adore Cecilia, Joan, Benedict & Cornelius and am fond of Minerva but am mildly afraid of her, she's awfully steely and hard, beautiful though. Cecilia & Cornelius are on my own lists, Joan is one I'm wishing would come back. I like her open, round tones and find she meshes well with a lot of names. Benedict I liked more before the new Pope, he's a bit off-putting to this non christian. But Benedict is still my favorite way to get to Ben.
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Oh I wouldn't split it. I love the alliteration and repetition of the emphasized a sounds. Splitting it up would defeat the purpose for me. Thanks tho.
Isn't it strange how Joan won't come back? I also think it sounds very open and round and is very dignified and pretty. Someone once suggested Cecilia Joan to me, I was like O_O pretty
Benedict I hated before the pope. When he got "poped in" I thought "ew, what a boring and ugly pope name, why didn't he pick Hilarius or something" but then it started to grow on me a lot. I like the connection to the old and baffling institution of the church, though. I also like it for Ben! And Bick!
Thanks!
Isn't it strange how Joan won't come back? I also think it sounds very open and round and is very dignified and pretty. Someone once suggested Cecilia Joan to me, I was like O_O pretty
Benedict I hated before the pope. When he got "poped in" I thought "ew, what a boring and ugly pope name, why didn't he pick Hilarius or something" but then it started to grow on me a lot. I like the connection to the old and baffling institution of the church, though. I also like it for Ben! And Bick!
Thanks!
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Tarquin makes me think of tarpon, and I don't care for it.
I like Cecilia and Cecily.
Don't care for Joan, sounds very old to me. I can't imagine a baby Joan.
Dislike Minerva.
Benedict makes me think of Benedict Arnold.
And Cornelius makes me think of Yukon Cornelius from the Rudolph clay-antimated movie. Also can't imagine Cornelius on a baby, and children would nn him Corn or Corny which would be awful.
I like Cecilia and Cecily.
Don't care for Joan, sounds very old to me. I can't imagine a baby Joan.
Dislike Minerva.
Benedict makes me think of Benedict Arnold.
And Cornelius makes me think of Yukon Cornelius from the Rudolph clay-antimated movie. Also can't imagine Cornelius on a baby, and children would nn him Corn or Corny which would be awful.
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Really? Even if he went by Neil?
I love the idea of stuffy old dusty names on little boys. "This is my son Hayden, he's 3 months old" "This is Jason, he's almost half a year now" "This is Jayden, he is fresh from the hospital" "Oh well this is Cornelius. I declare myself the winnar. *wears winnar hat*"
LOL I also really love Rudolph, it is my second favorite boy name. I remember when I met a Cornelius for the first time I could only think of Yukon Cornelius and thought it was really weird that someone should be named that. But! I like it.
I love the idea of stuffy old dusty names on little boys. "This is my son Hayden, he's 3 months old" "This is Jason, he's almost half a year now" "This is Jayden, he is fresh from the hospital" "Oh well this is Cornelius. I declare myself the winnar. *wears winnar hat*"
LOL I also really love Rudolph, it is my second favorite boy name. I remember when I met a Cornelius for the first time I could only think of Yukon Cornelius and thought it was really weird that someone should be named that. But! I like it.
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Cornelius
I don't care for Neil on a baby either. I know a couple Neils and only one is under 30, the others are 45+. It sounds outdated, and I just don't care for it. When I hear it, I think kneel, not a name; but it is better than Cornelius.
I am in complete agreement on the trendy Hadyn/Jayden/Kaden, and absolutely hate those names. I also dislike Brandon, Kevin, Tyler and other common names. I like unusual names that have a history, not a made-up name. But I don't like completely odd names that would be overly prominent on a roll call. For example, I consider Silas a classic, but uncommon name. It wouldn't garner much teasing and could be modernized with the nn Si (which I don't like, but the boy might) and has a more simple sound. To me (and I know it's completely subjective) Silas is an interesting unusual name, but not at all weird. People have heard of it. Cornelius isn't completely unheard of, but it's sounds old and cumbersome... I don't know how to explain it.
I don't care for Neil on a baby either. I know a couple Neils and only one is under 30, the others are 45+. It sounds outdated, and I just don't care for it. When I hear it, I think kneel, not a name; but it is better than Cornelius.
I am in complete agreement on the trendy Hadyn/Jayden/Kaden, and absolutely hate those names. I also dislike Brandon, Kevin, Tyler and other common names. I like unusual names that have a history, not a made-up name. But I don't like completely odd names that would be overly prominent on a roll call. For example, I consider Silas a classic, but uncommon name. It wouldn't garner much teasing and could be modernized with the nn Si (which I don't like, but the boy might) and has a more simple sound. To me (and I know it's completely subjective) Silas is an interesting unusual name, but not at all weird. People have heard of it. Cornelius isn't completely unheard of, but it's sounds old and cumbersome... I don't know how to explain it.
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"unfashionable."
that's the word you're looking for.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=silas&submit=Go
A lot of parents are thinking like you, hon :P
I like names that are completely contrary to current trends, and Cornelius is that. Everything that is in style now, Cornelius is not. Silas is (and Silas is fine, I like it quite well) short, biblical, slightly feminine, and has the super cool Si- next to it. Cornelius? none of those things. That is what I love about it. Cornelius stands alone in a class of the top 100. Old and cumbersome - yes! That is what modern american naming is opposed to, above all else - old names, heavy names. ("character," says Emma.)
I don't like Neil. but it makes Cornelius usable, a lot moreso than Corny. I know a Cornelius who didn't use a nickname though, no one made fun of him and called him corny
that's the word you're looking for.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=silas&submit=Go
A lot of parents are thinking like you, hon :P
I like names that are completely contrary to current trends, and Cornelius is that. Everything that is in style now, Cornelius is not. Silas is (and Silas is fine, I like it quite well) short, biblical, slightly feminine, and has the super cool Si- next to it. Cornelius? none of those things. That is what I love about it. Cornelius stands alone in a class of the top 100. Old and cumbersome - yes! That is what modern american naming is opposed to, above all else - old names, heavy names. ("character," says Emma.)
I don't like Neil. but it makes Cornelius usable, a lot moreso than Corny. I know a Cornelius who didn't use a nickname though, no one made fun of him and called him corny
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That's kinda cool, actully
The fact that your favorite names are generally opposite of current trends. I never really noticed that, but now that you mention it, it's painfully obvious. Griselda is actually seeming pretty darn cool right now, actually!
The fact that your favorite names are generally opposite of current trends. I never really noticed that, but now that you mention it, it's painfully obvious. Griselda is actually seeming pretty darn cool right now, actually!
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Nope, not "unfashionable"
Because if I were "fashionable", I would like Hadyn/Kaden/Aiden :P Maybe it's the "corn" sound that I dislike in Cornelius, or maybe the "kneel" sound. I like a lot names ending in -us, but just don't care for the sound of this one. It sounds cumbersome to my ears.
I think of Silas as being completely untrendy. I've never known anyone named Silas, and certainly not a child. I'm shocked that Silas is increasing in popularity, I hadn't heard it anywhere but by reading the New Testament. I swear everyone steals my ideas before I can use them. I wanted to make a St. Paddy's day t-shirt that said, "Don't kiss me, I'm not Irish," but someone beat me to that too. I didn't know this site had those popularity charts, though. Thanks for posting it.
But I like what I like because I like it, not because it's fashionable, but because it suits me and my husband. That said, I have taken names off my list when it's had an obvious increase on the social security list or if a celebrity uses it. We wouldn't use a name we don't like (like Mephibosheth) solely because it's unfashionable and uncommon. But we will reject a name that we do like if there are hints that it may be becoming a trend.
Because if I were "fashionable", I would like Hadyn/Kaden/Aiden :P Maybe it's the "corn" sound that I dislike in Cornelius, or maybe the "kneel" sound. I like a lot names ending in -us, but just don't care for the sound of this one. It sounds cumbersome to my ears.
I think of Silas as being completely untrendy. I've never known anyone named Silas, and certainly not a child. I'm shocked that Silas is increasing in popularity, I hadn't heard it anywhere but by reading the New Testament. I swear everyone steals my ideas before I can use them. I wanted to make a St. Paddy's day t-shirt that said, "Don't kiss me, I'm not Irish," but someone beat me to that too. I didn't know this site had those popularity charts, though. Thanks for posting it.
But I like what I like because I like it, not because it's fashionable, but because it suits me and my husband. That said, I have taken names off my list when it's had an obvious increase on the social security list or if a celebrity uses it. We wouldn't use a name we don't like (like Mephibosheth) solely because it's unfashionable and uncommon. But we will reject a name that we do like if there are hints that it may be becoming a trend.
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The "corn" sound is unfashionable. So is the "kneel."
LOL I just got through a long post praising American naming. There are a LOT of trends that I really like a lot. Long, open vowels, names uncluttered with consonants, old biblical gems reused, names starting with vowels, short simple names, pretty 80 year old names. I think a lot of names in the top 20 are great.
You might be surprised. Check out Isaiah.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=isaiah&submit=Go
Jeremiah's more popular than Jeremy.
Even Nehemiah's scooting rapidly up the charts.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=nehemiah&submit=Go
Josiah's almost broke the top 100.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=Josiah&submit=Go
A lot of people who like these great names do not realize that they are trendy/fashionable. Check out Milo. Check out Scarlett. Check out Adelaide. They like them because they are great names.
Silas is becoming a trend. Do not reject it because of that. It is a fine trend. There is nothing wrong with trendy names. I prefer my "listed" names (ones I would use) to contradict trends because I love all sorts of names, trendy, nontrendy, unknown, and counter-trend, and in the interest of balance I favor countertrend in practical application.
(Incidentally, my number one name, Simon, seems pretty amazingly steady despite the trend that's grabbing up Silas, Isaiah, and -n names. I wasquite pleasantly surprised to see this! However, if it did become trendy I wouldn't mind.)
LOL I just got through a long post praising American naming. There are a LOT of trends that I really like a lot. Long, open vowels, names uncluttered with consonants, old biblical gems reused, names starting with vowels, short simple names, pretty 80 year old names. I think a lot of names in the top 20 are great.
You might be surprised. Check out Isaiah.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=isaiah&submit=Go
Jeremiah's more popular than Jeremy.
Even Nehemiah's scooting rapidly up the charts.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=nehemiah&submit=Go
Josiah's almost broke the top 100.
http://www.behindthename.com/top/search.php?extra=p&terms=Josiah&submit=Go
A lot of people who like these great names do not realize that they are trendy/fashionable. Check out Milo. Check out Scarlett. Check out Adelaide. They like them because they are great names.
Silas is becoming a trend. Do not reject it because of that. It is a fine trend. There is nothing wrong with trendy names. I prefer my "listed" names (ones I would use) to contradict trends because I love all sorts of names, trendy, nontrendy, unknown, and counter-trend, and in the interest of balance I favor countertrend in practical application.
(Incidentally, my number one name, Simon, seems pretty amazingly steady despite the trend that's grabbing up Silas, Isaiah, and -n names. I wasquite pleasantly surprised to see this! However, if it did become trendy I wouldn't mind.)
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Oh, Simon was always my favorite! and I love the nn Sim. But, it sounds rhymey with our last name (ends in "en" sound). So, I can't use it. I tried to convince my husband to use Simone (Italian form of Simon pronounced SEE-mo-nay), but he wouldn't go for it. Now, I just try to work the intials into SIM, so I can still have the nn Sim.
And Adelaide! I never heard anyone else mention Adelaide until I came to these boards; and it's on everyone's list. I read the Anne of Green Gables books and all other LM Montgomery books since childhood. Adelaide was a name mentioned in one of the books, and I've loved that name since I was 10 years old.
I'm convinced that Scarlett is becoming a trend just because a newer celebrity bears the name (Johansen).
Wow, I can't believe Nehemiah is coming up the charts. Actually, I do know a Nehemiah, about 12 years old, I think.
I refuse to use a trendy name. I think it would be horrible to be one of 5 Emilys/Madisons/Aidens in a class. Every time I'm shopping, I hear a mother calling for a Madison. I haven't noticed any Aidens in our region, but I do know a Cade, 2 Kadens, a Braeden, and a Hadyn. I'm not rejecting Silas yet. #346 is a ways down on the charts, so I don't consider it a trend yet. We'll see. I'm just so afraid of a name boom of my name right when I name my child. I guess everyone has to be scared of something.
And Adelaide! I never heard anyone else mention Adelaide until I came to these boards; and it's on everyone's list. I read the Anne of Green Gables books and all other LM Montgomery books since childhood. Adelaide was a name mentioned in one of the books, and I've loved that name since I was 10 years old.
I'm convinced that Scarlett is becoming a trend just because a newer celebrity bears the name (Johansen).
Wow, I can't believe Nehemiah is coming up the charts. Actually, I do know a Nehemiah, about 12 years old, I think.
I refuse to use a trendy name. I think it would be horrible to be one of 5 Emilys/Madisons/Aidens in a class. Every time I'm shopping, I hear a mother calling for a Madison. I haven't noticed any Aidens in our region, but I do know a Cade, 2 Kadens, a Braeden, and a Hadyn. I'm not rejecting Silas yet. #346 is a ways down on the charts, so I don't consider it a trend yet. We'll see. I'm just so afraid of a name boom of my name right when I name my child. I guess everyone has to be scared of something.
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Tarquin is neat. Much cooler than Quinn IMO, I really like the sound too and how it looks.
Tarquin Lapis Lazuli seems very fantasy-ish, and for some reason very sparkly. I think it's because I used to confuse Tarquin with Topaz (?) and well, Lapis Lazuli, obviously.
Cecilia - used to love this. Now it just sounds whiny and hissy. But it has a great history to it.
Joan - love love love. It reminds me of old Jazz dancers but it obviously ages well. And Joan of Arc is great. Every time I mention Joan someone puts me down about it and I settle with Joanna, which I like but one day it will have to battle it out with Joan.
Minerva - Mysterious, clever, slightly harsh but really pretty. You just have to use it!
Benedict - it's regal and interesting but not for me.
Cornelius - LOL my first thought is Fudge. Then I think how pretentious and unrealistic it is, and let's hope no one calls him corny :) But if I was to ask someone what their middle name was and they told me Cornelius, I would be so excited!
Tarquin Lapis Lazuli seems very fantasy-ish, and for some reason very sparkly. I think it's because I used to confuse Tarquin with Topaz (?) and well, Lapis Lazuli, obviously.
Cecilia - used to love this. Now it just sounds whiny and hissy. But it has a great history to it.
Joan - love love love. It reminds me of old Jazz dancers but it obviously ages well. And Joan of Arc is great. Every time I mention Joan someone puts me down about it and I settle with Joanna, which I like but one day it will have to battle it out with Joan.
Minerva - Mysterious, clever, slightly harsh but really pretty. You just have to use it!
Benedict - it's regal and interesting but not for me.
Cornelius - LOL my first thought is Fudge. Then I think how pretentious and unrealistic it is, and let's hope no one calls him corny :) But if I was to ask someone what their middle name was and they told me Cornelius, I would be so excited!
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Oh hey! There Quinn is, right there, sitting in Tarquin! I do not think Quinn is cool at all, it seems very silly to me that it's getting attention on this board / irl, but I like it a lot in Tarquin!
Tarquin seems kind of medieval to me and therefore a bit fantasyish. It is also sparkly to me because of the t and the a and the qu. I am glad someone else sees it as sparkly :D that is one of my favorite qualities. I love glittery names.
Cecilia's always been a hisser to me. :D Ava, Madison, Emily, Isabella, and then nasty old Cecilia ruining everyone's fun. Heeeem.
I love Joanna too. Is it on my PNL yet? It should be. It is so simple and pretty. Totes different from Joan though.
I always for get how cool JKRowling names her characters! D:
I actually knew a Cornelius who didn't have nicknames. And yeah it is pretentious I wouldn't use it probably, unless I had about fifty kids. But man is it stompy and fun!
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Tarquin seems kind of medieval to me and therefore a bit fantasyish. It is also sparkly to me because of the t and the a and the qu. I am glad someone else sees it as sparkly :D that is one of my favorite qualities. I love glittery names.
Cecilia's always been a hisser to me. :D Ava, Madison, Emily, Isabella, and then nasty old Cecilia ruining everyone's fun. Heeeem.
I love Joanna too. Is it on my PNL yet? It should be. It is so simple and pretty. Totes different from Joan though.
I always for get how cool JKRowling names her characters! D:
I actually knew a Cornelius who didn't have nicknames. And yeah it is pretentious I wouldn't use it probably, unless I had about fifty kids. But man is it stompy and fun!
Thanks!
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I don't think I like Tarquin - it's too close to Larkin (Peterkin, whatever like that), which is one of the names I hate with the big H.
It is nice that its origin might be Etruscan - I'm very fascinated with everything connected with that culture. Oh, my parents were a few weeks ago in Rome, and the pictures of Etruscan architecture they took were so impressive! Everything Etruscans did was so big and kingly! After that I've dreamed of going to Rome - I've been already in Italy two times, but only in Toscana and Venetia...
Tarquin Lapis Lazuli - Um, Lapis made me smile, it makes me think of the Russian word lyapsus, which means blunder. The whole combo is very funny, it'd make a great name for some literature character.
Cecilia - My favourite female combo/name is Anna-Cecilia. I find Cecilia one of the most musical names in the world - not only phonetically, also... I know four Cecilias - three of them do music on a very high level. I think that Cecilia has some aura that makes you more fascinated by music or whatever... But definitely, C. makes me think of music. Bach. The flute solo in Monteverdi's Orfeus. Yeah, Cecilia is a great name!
Joan - I just cannot stand the pronunciation! JON! It doesn't make any sense - sounds like crooked John. Why isn't Joanna pronounced JO-nah then? The only prn. I can tolerate and like is JO-ahn. The Joan-connection I like is Joan Hickson, the only right Miss Marple. :)
Minerva - My first reaction is always "tries too hard". After reading an interview with a silly Minerva I've lost a lot of respect to this name - Wisdom's goddesse's name looks pathetic on not very wise bearers!
It is nice that its origin might be Etruscan - I'm very fascinated with everything connected with that culture. Oh, my parents were a few weeks ago in Rome, and the pictures of Etruscan architecture they took were so impressive! Everything Etruscans did was so big and kingly! After that I've dreamed of going to Rome - I've been already in Italy two times, but only in Toscana and Venetia...
Tarquin Lapis Lazuli - Um, Lapis made me smile, it makes me think of the Russian word lyapsus, which means blunder. The whole combo is very funny, it'd make a great name for some literature character.
Cecilia - My favourite female combo/name is Anna-Cecilia. I find Cecilia one of the most musical names in the world - not only phonetically, also... I know four Cecilias - three of them do music on a very high level. I think that Cecilia has some aura that makes you more fascinated by music or whatever... But definitely, C. makes me think of music. Bach. The flute solo in Monteverdi's Orfeus. Yeah, Cecilia is a great name!
Joan - I just cannot stand the pronunciation! JON! It doesn't make any sense - sounds like crooked John. Why isn't Joanna pronounced JO-nah then? The only prn. I can tolerate and like is JO-ahn. The Joan-connection I like is Joan Hickson, the only right Miss Marple. :)
Minerva - My first reaction is always "tries too hard". After reading an interview with a silly Minerva I've lost a lot of respect to this name - Wisdom's goddesse's name looks pathetic on not very wise bearers!
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The -kin connection isn't too heavy for me, since I pronounce tarquin -kwin and not -kin. Interesting you bring it up though, I was just reading about pet forms a few days ago and thought how much more convenient -y is than -kin, and how odd that -kin would be the natural English pet form.
Wow your teacher has good name taste. Anna-Sofia pretty much is perfect. (Well so is Minerva.) I wish my favorite teacher...*mumble mumble*
I do not know anything about Etruscans! *frustrate* All I know is that Claudius wrote an Etruscan dictionary and it got lost and so now I don't know what half of my favorite names mean. I shall now wikipedia Etruscans.
I actually have a character named Tarquin L. L. :D I just renamed him from Thomas Regulus Aquinas Voltaire "Tom." I'm trying it out. Tarquin might fit him a lot better. (HE IS HANDSOME!)
I LOVE Anna-Cecilia! ..well I am trying to wrap my mind around the dash there, but yeah I loooove that. Very musical, phonetically and because Cecilia Bartoli and St Cecilia and
well this woman isn't music but isn't she beautiful?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_with_an_Ermine
plus Cecilia is phonetically just like a sonatina within itself.
HEE! That is a cute Cornelius image. :D
Thanks!
Wow your teacher has good name taste. Anna-Sofia pretty much is perfect. (Well so is Minerva.) I wish my favorite teacher...*mumble mumble*
I do not know anything about Etruscans! *frustrate* All I know is that Claudius wrote an Etruscan dictionary and it got lost and so now I don't know what half of my favorite names mean. I shall now wikipedia Etruscans.
I actually have a character named Tarquin L. L. :D I just renamed him from Thomas Regulus Aquinas Voltaire "Tom." I'm trying it out. Tarquin might fit him a lot better. (HE IS HANDSOME!)
I LOVE Anna-Cecilia! ..well I am trying to wrap my mind around the dash there, but yeah I loooove that. Very musical, phonetically and because Cecilia Bartoli and St Cecilia and
well this woman isn't music but isn't she beautiful?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_with_an_Ermine
plus Cecilia is phonetically just like a sonatina within itself.
HEE! That is a cute Cornelius image. :D
Thanks!
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I like Tarquin. It's not something I would use, but I think it's an interesting name. As for the combo Tarquin Lapis Lazuli, I'm not a fan. I don't think it has a good flow, for one, and I generally don't like gem names. What about Tarquin Lazuli? That has a better flow, to me.
Cecilia - I love this name, and it is on my PNL. I find it soft, although not princessy like others on the board. I like it a lot.
Joan - I don't like this name. It's very dull, to me, and kind of old and musty.
Minerva - I like this name a lot. I've been thinking about it recently and toying with putting it on my PNL.
Benedict - I like this name, too. I like the Ben- sound, but it's a less common name than Benjamin. Very nice.
Cornelius - I don't really like this one. I think it's the Corn- sound, as I don't like Cornelia either, but I like Cordelia. I guess I just don't like corn. *g*
Cecilia - I love this name, and it is on my PNL. I find it soft, although not princessy like others on the board. I like it a lot.
Joan - I don't like this name. It's very dull, to me, and kind of old and musty.
Minerva - I like this name a lot. I've been thinking about it recently and toying with putting it on my PNL.
Benedict - I like this name, too. I like the Ben- sound, but it's a less common name than Benjamin. Very nice.
Cornelius - I don't really like this one. I think it's the Corn- sound, as I don't like Cornelia either, but I like Cordelia. I guess I just don't like corn. *g*
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Really? I like the flow a lot. I like a lot of alliteration (Minerva Maria Cecilia, Cordelia Tippins Thomasina). Splitting it up makes it like half a name for me. Thanks tho.
Yeah I didn't like Cornelius and Cornelia for ages, mostly because of the corn. :P Lately though my view of it has changed from corn-elius to cor-nelius. ...Hm. What a difference.
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Yeah I didn't like Cornelius and Cornelia for ages, mostly because of the corn. :P Lately though my view of it has changed from corn-elius to cor-nelius. ...Hm. What a difference.
Thanks!
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It's not the alliteration - I have a hard time saying Tarquin Lapis. It doesn't fit together very well, in my opinion. I think Lapis Lazuli is fine together, if not my style. I'd like the flow better with a different name, I think.
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Hm! That is odd that Lazuli should be easier than Lapis. :P
I would be interested in suggestions for other FNs for Lapis Lazuli! I have a hard time thinking of them.
I would be interested in suggestions for other FNs for Lapis Lazuli! I have a hard time thinking of them.
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Another first name - maybe something like Octavian? Oh, or what about Vespasian, since someone mentioned that yesterday? I feel like it needs to be a more over-the-top style name, as Matthew Lapis Lazuli would just look odd. Maybe Constantine? Ignatius? Greek and Roman inspired names seem to work with the vibe.
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