Re: Katy or Katie
in reply to a message by sam
1) Katie. I always want to pronounce Katy KAT-ee not KAY-tee.
2) It sounds very young, but is a nice nickname for a young girl called Katherine (or one of its variants, Katharina, Kathleen/Caitín, etc). I vastly prefer Kate, but it doesn't always work for very young children- I mostly call my three year old cousin Kate, but slip into calling her Katie.
If you mean as a full name- it's positively dreadful as a full name. Not only is it a nickname (some of those, like Jeanette, I can accept and even like as given names, they've come into their own as given names, at least here), but it's a cutesy sounding nickname. Any nickname ending with the -ie diminuitive sounds dreadfully childish. I couldn't imagine applying for a job (and goodness, I'm planning to be an actor, what if she wants to be a doctor or somesuch?) and writing Katie Lastname on my resumé! Nor could I imagine introducing myself to people as Katie once I'd passed the age of twelve or so. My friend Maisie has even taken on a formal name for mock trial- she introduces herself to judges as Margaret, though her full legal name is Maisie. Even in that forum- a high school forum- a nickname feels inappropriate. I'm not sure how she'll call herself when she's really a lawyer, or whatever she winds up being.
In short, consider one of these forms of Katherine, with the nn Katie (grouped by pronounciation, sorry if that's confusing, but there are so many!):
Aikaterine
Caitlín (not 'kate-lynn'), Cathleen, Kathleen
Caitria
Caitríona, Caitrìona, Catriona, Katriona
Catarina, Caterina, Catharina, Catherina, Katariina, Katarina, Katarína, Katarine, Katerina, Kateryna, Katharina
Catalina
Catherine, Katharine, Katherine
Cathrin, Catherine, Catrine, Catrin, Kathrin, Katrien, Katrijn, Katrin, Katrine
Ecaterina, Ekaterina, Jekaterina, Yekaterina
Catrina, Katriina, Katrina, Kotryna
Katarzyna (kah-tah-ZHI-na)
Katelijn (kah-tuh-LIEN), Katelijne (kah-tuh-LIE-nuh)
Katell
Kateri
Katina
If nothing else, consider going with Kate. It's just as clearly a nickname, but at least it's a mature nickname.
3) I suppose I'd try to pair it with something that would give it more weight, like...
Katie Benedicta
Katie Augusta
Katie Gwendolen
Katie Georgia
Katie Bernadette
Katie Beatrice
Katie Barbara
Katie Edith
Katie Frances
Katie Francesca
Katie Wilhelmina
Katie Ingrid
Katie Louisa
Katie Magdalene
Katie Margaret
Or, if you're a huge fan of Gone With the Wind, Katie Scarlett. (I don't really recommend that, haha.)
2) It sounds very young, but is a nice nickname for a young girl called Katherine (or one of its variants, Katharina, Kathleen/Caitín, etc). I vastly prefer Kate, but it doesn't always work for very young children- I mostly call my three year old cousin Kate, but slip into calling her Katie.
If you mean as a full name- it's positively dreadful as a full name. Not only is it a nickname (some of those, like Jeanette, I can accept and even like as given names, they've come into their own as given names, at least here), but it's a cutesy sounding nickname. Any nickname ending with the -ie diminuitive sounds dreadfully childish. I couldn't imagine applying for a job (and goodness, I'm planning to be an actor, what if she wants to be a doctor or somesuch?) and writing Katie Lastname on my resumé! Nor could I imagine introducing myself to people as Katie once I'd passed the age of twelve or so. My friend Maisie has even taken on a formal name for mock trial- she introduces herself to judges as Margaret, though her full legal name is Maisie. Even in that forum- a high school forum- a nickname feels inappropriate. I'm not sure how she'll call herself when she's really a lawyer, or whatever she winds up being.
In short, consider one of these forms of Katherine, with the nn Katie (grouped by pronounciation, sorry if that's confusing, but there are so many!):
Aikaterine
Caitlín (not 'kate-lynn'), Cathleen, Kathleen
Caitria
Caitríona, Caitrìona, Catriona, Katriona
Catarina, Caterina, Catharina, Catherina, Katariina, Katarina, Katarína, Katarine, Katerina, Kateryna, Katharina
Catalina
Catherine, Katharine, Katherine
Cathrin, Catherine, Catrine, Catrin, Kathrin, Katrien, Katrijn, Katrin, Katrine
Ecaterina, Ekaterina, Jekaterina, Yekaterina
Catrina, Katriina, Katrina, Kotryna
Katarzyna (kah-tah-ZHI-na)
Katelijn (kah-tuh-LIEN), Katelijne (kah-tuh-LIE-nuh)
Katell
Kateri
Katina
If nothing else, consider going with Kate. It's just as clearly a nickname, but at least it's a mature nickname.
3) I suppose I'd try to pair it with something that would give it more weight, like...
Katie Benedicta
Katie Augusta
Katie Gwendolen
Katie Georgia
Katie Bernadette
Katie Beatrice
Katie Barbara
Katie Edith
Katie Frances
Katie Francesca
Katie Wilhelmina
Katie Ingrid
Katie Louisa
Katie Magdalene
Katie Margaret
Or, if you're a huge fan of Gone With the Wind, Katie Scarlett. (I don't really recommend that, haha.)
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OMG. Some people are so mean. I have no trouble introducing myself as Katie (insert surname). And it IS my full name. It has never seemed like a nickname to me, nor have I ever been asked if its my full or real name... gah. What would be the point in naming someone Katherine if you planned on calling them Katie anyway? Thats pointless. And its a name in its own right. I bet I'll regret this rant but... well I'm in a bad mood today.
I wasn't trying to be mean, and I don't really understand how what I wrote was mean. I personally would have a problem being named Katie, or even a nickname that's detatched from its origins (like Molly or Sally). I am surprised no one has asked you if Katie is your full name. I'm sorry if I offended you. A criticism of the name isn't an attack on people who bear it.
The point would be if Hypothetical Katie is more like me than you and would rather be Dr. Katherine Lastname than Dr. Katie Lastname (or Justice, or Ms, whatever, you see my meaning). Some people would just rather have that full name to fall back on. I would rather give my child that option.
The point would be if Hypothetical Katie is more like me than you and would rather be Dr. Katherine Lastname than Dr. Katie Lastname (or Justice, or Ms, whatever, you see my meaning). Some people would just rather have that full name to fall back on. I would rather give my child that option.
Its ok.. sorry I flipped out so much, I've just seen quite a lot of snipiness, pretention, rudeness and 'I'm better than you' syndrome round here recently... I gotta say, none of its actually coming from you. So I'm sorry. Sure, if I got to pick my own name, it wouldn't be Katie but it could be so much worse and I'm fed up of people in here slating it (its been done before).
I'm glad you like your name, but I'm *really* glad my parents named me Kathleen instead of Katie. It gives me more options, even though I'm almost always called Katie (well, actually Katy).