Again, why?
in reply to a message by Sabrina Fair
I don't understand this. Miles brings to mind Miles Davis and many other literary characters. Eowyn is the name of a female in exceedingly popular films. Neither are even remotely androgynous. Plus Miley is such a stupid nn - and a total celebrity rip-off at that.
A kid is going to have to live with their name. While I can see a female Miles somewhat well I cannot imagine a happy male Eowyn.
A kid is going to have to live with their name. While I can see a female Miles somewhat well I cannot imagine a happy male Eowyn.
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I agree. I reckon a male Éowyn would change his name anyway. And I think Miley should be used on its own if that's the intended everyday form.
Miley is for a friend of mine who's name is Maile (though I dislike her spelling of it) it's not because of Miley Cyrus.
ETA: I never heard of Miles Davis when I see Miles I think of walking miles. I also don't think Eowyn would be too bad not many people know who it is or how to even say it honestly unless they saw/read/like LotR.
ETA: I never heard of Miles Davis when I see Miles I think of walking miles. I also don't think Eowyn would be too bad not many people know who it is or how to even say it honestly unless they saw/read/like LotR.
This message was edited 3/1/2008, 8:58 PM
Er . . .
Between the books and the movies, LotR is one of the most widely-known fantasy franchises out there. Eowyn is a well-known name, and it is feminine, period.
Between the books and the movies, LotR is one of the most widely-known fantasy franchises out there. Eowyn is a well-known name, and it is feminine, period.
I've never read LotR or seen the films in their entirety, but I know perfectly well that Eowyn is a female character. Especially after the films, pretty much everyone is familiar with LotR stuff. And that you don't know about Miles Davis does not cancel the fact that a lot of people know about him and will consider the name masculine.
I hope I don't come across as being rude, but you can't keep imagining that if you don't get a certain reference it doesn't matter, or just rely on the fact that in your mind a few people won't get a reference and therefore it doesn't matter.
Anyway, as Siri said, I too can tollerate a female Miles (our own BtN Miles seems ok enough with it), but naming a boy Eowyn is like naming him Hermione or something.
I hope I don't come across as being rude, but you can't keep imagining that if you don't get a certain reference it doesn't matter, or just rely on the fact that in your mind a few people won't get a reference and therefore it doesn't matter.
Anyway, as Siri said, I too can tollerate a female Miles (our own BtN Miles seems ok enough with it), but naming a boy Eowyn is like naming him Hermione or something.
I'm not looking for a certain reference I'm just saying I never heard of Miles Davis. As for Eowyn I highly doubt not because it'f feminine but for the fact people don't really know how to say it correctly, lol I do have it on my list for both genders though. I too think whenver I see Eowyn = LoTR automatically and I very well know who the character is but being a female character doesn't bother me "maybe" it would my son in some ways but it's only due to the double standard of society when it comes to names sadly [girls = weak, boys = strong thing].
It's usually the younger generations who know who the character is that's all I was meaning by it. I just don't see what's wrong with having a feminine name on a boy but girls can have boys names which are more "acceptable".
I don't mind people having those references at all when it comes to Eowyn or Miles but for me personally it doesn't bother me what type of reference it is as long as it's not bad or have a bad meaning.
ETA: Just to let you know I'd use Eowyn on a girl before I'd use it on a boy. I'd probably end up pronouncing Eowyn e-oh-wyn for a boy anyways which is the wrong pronounciation. I have seen an Arwen on a few boys though.
is there any other names that look like Eowyn for a boy (I dislike Owen, Eion, I used to like Ewan no longer now). I do agree though that is is like naming him Hermione. I'll probably save it for my sims.
It's usually the younger generations who know who the character is that's all I was meaning by it. I just don't see what's wrong with having a feminine name on a boy but girls can have boys names which are more "acceptable".
I don't mind people having those references at all when it comes to Eowyn or Miles but for me personally it doesn't bother me what type of reference it is as long as it's not bad or have a bad meaning.
ETA: Just to let you know I'd use Eowyn on a girl before I'd use it on a boy. I'd probably end up pronouncing Eowyn e-oh-wyn for a boy anyways which is the wrong pronounciation. I have seen an Arwen on a few boys though.
is there any other names that look like Eowyn for a boy (I dislike Owen, Eion, I used to like Ewan no longer now). I do agree though that is is like naming him Hermione. I'll probably save it for my sims.
This message was edited 3/2/2008, 10:59 AM
true I agree with that
Yeah, he wasn't the greatest human being on earth. but, well, what can ya do. Though, (mostly because of my name) If I were to name a child after someone I'd try to make sure that said namesake wasn't mad as a hatter :-)
LOL
Very well-put.
See my post above - I'm not sure whether I would honor him or not. :-D
Very well-put.
See my post above - I'm not sure whether I would honor him or not. :-D
My thoughts exactly.
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This message was edited 3/2/2008, 1:34 AM
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This message was edited 3/2/2008, 1:35 AM