[Facts] Re: Gütel (Medieval German name)
in reply to a message by (Is-rah-el) Israelle
Gütel is an open diminutive of #Gute# "good (feminine)", and with the typical Yiddish loss of rounding in ö and ü it becomes Gitel, the further development to Gittel is not clear to me, but I don't have detailed knowlodge on Yiddish sound shifts.
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It makes sense considering Yiddish doesn't have vowels and therefore it causes a vowel shift between German Yiddish and other Yiddish dialects. thank you for confirming this
but It also appears to be used in Medieval Silesia by Germans, I should've made it clear but I can't understand what is the German usage of the name, the silesian German name list probably consists of gentiles, I don't see a reason why would a Jewish name on the list. Is it a German contage of Gittel?
but It also appears to be used in Medieval Silesia by Germans, I should've made it clear but I can't understand what is the German usage of the name, the silesian German name list probably consists of gentiles, I don't see a reason why would a Jewish name on the list. Is it a German contage of Gittel?
The phenomenon of unrounding ö and ü is not restricted to Yiddish, it also occurs in many German dialects, Silesian (both Upper Silesian ans Lower Silesian) is one of them, but also Rheinfränkisch, Moselfränkisch, and Obersächsisch show this phenomenon.
P.S. The unrounding also affects the diphthong eu/äu which is unrounded to ei/ai (pronounced IE).
More one this (in German): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entlabialisierung
P.S. The unrounding also affects the diphthong eu/äu which is unrounded to ei/ai (pronounced IE).
More one this (in German): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entlabialisierung
This message was edited 10/20/2024, 9:37 AM