Message: "Gütel (Medieval German name)"

[Facts] Gütel (Medieval German name)

by (Is-rah-el) Israelle (Israella)

10/19/2024, 7:23 AM

I found it on the list "Medieval German Given Names from Silesia"
(here: https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/bahlow/bahlowFem.html)

It appears to be contage of Gittel and Gute but I am not 100% sure.
I don't have much information about the name but I would like to submit it on the website
are there any other sources referencing the name?

edit: I've also found a case of Gütel being used as a form of Gittel

https://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=juden_nw&ID=I228715&nachname=HEIDENHEIM&lang=de

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https://www.behindthename.com/pnl/229415/142623
https://www.behindthename.com/pnl/229415/165832

#Gütel

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- elbowin +2

10/19/2024, 11:42 AM

Gütel is an open diminutive of #Gute# "good (feminine)", and with the typical Yiddish loss of rounding in ö and ü it becomes Gitel, the further development to Gittel is not clear to me, but I don't have detailed knowlodge on Yiddish sound shifts.

- (Is-rah-el) Israelle (Israella) +1

10/20/2024, 3:33 AM

It makes sense considering Yiddish doesn't have vowels and therefore it causes a vowel shift between German Yiddish and other Yiddish dialects. thank you for confirming this

but It also appears to be used in Medieval Silesia by Germans, I should've made it clear but I can't understand what is the German usage of the name, the silesian German name list probably consists of gentiles, I don't see a reason why would a Jewish name on the list. Is it a German contage of Gittel?

- elbowin

10/20/2024, 9:33 AM

The phenomenon of unrounding ö and ü is not restricted to Yiddish, it also occurs in many German dialects, Silesian (both Upper Silesian ans Lower Silesian) is one of them, but also Rheinfränkisch, Moselfränkisch, and Obersächsisch show this phenomenon.

P.S. The unrounding also affects the diphthong eu/äu which is unrounded to ei/ai (pronounced IE).

More one this (in German): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entlabialisierung

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