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Help[Opinions] Re: B/G Twins
in reply to a message by LMS
For this exercise, I offer possibilities with options & twists upon & among common use--more, upon and among popular thought - i.e if Henry is the root of both Henry & Henriette, and that at least some males were named Susan sixty or more years prior, and no male data registers for Suzanne, why cannot Susan be the masculine version for his twin sister Suzanne - especially under such a creative & fun rubric?
Susan & Suzanne / Suzanna (Susanna)
Carol / Caroline & Carolina
Julius / Julie (Jules) & Juliette / Julia / Julianna (Jules)
Nicole / Nicola (Nick / Nikki) & Nicolette / Nicoletta (Nick / Nikki)
Gretchen & Gretta
Gwendolyn / Guinevere (Wendy) & Jennifer / Jen (Jenny)
Andrew / Andy / Annie (Drew / Drue) & Drusilla (Drew / Drue) / Andie / Annie
--for the immediately above suggestion, I considered the Raggedy Anne and Andy toys or stories, then considered Aniken & Ani.
Susan & Suzanne / Suzanna (Susanna)
Carol / Caroline & Carolina
Julius / Julie (Jules) & Juliette / Julia / Julianna (Jules)
Nicole / Nicola (Nick / Nikki) & Nicolette / Nicoletta (Nick / Nikki)
Gretchen & Gretta
Gwendolyn / Guinevere (Wendy) & Jennifer / Jen (Jenny)
Andrew / Andy / Annie (Drew / Drue) & Drusilla (Drew / Drue) / Andie / Annie
--for the immediately above suggestion, I considered the Raggedy Anne and Andy toys or stories, then considered Aniken & Ani.
This message was edited 4/11/2016, 6:05 AM
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Where have you seen Susan as a male name?
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My guess is that people get confused (reasonably so) when a female baby's name got mistakenly entered in the male column. These do sometimes show up as daft little bumps in the statistics.
There was one case of a man who grew up to be Lord Anne Somebody 'because' Queen Anne was his godmother, though it seems ludicrously snobbish. But in the absence outside Narnia of a Queen Susan, I'm betting on the transcription error.
There was one case of a man who grew up to be Lord Anne Somebody 'because' Queen Anne was his godmother, though it seems ludicrously snobbish. But in the absence outside Narnia of a Queen Susan, I'm betting on the transcription error.
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I suspect that's it too, but I didn't want to leap to conclusions! :)
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In the United Sates between the nineteen-twenties and late nineteen-sixties, names that were extremely popular among females (generally among the top ten most popular names) began to be assigned to males. My own name is another example, as is the name, Linda - among quite a few other names; I however was born shortly after this tend slowed. The name Susan is assigned to an equal percentage of females in recent years as it was assigned to males (between the nineteen-forties and the nineteen-sixties).
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It's generally accepted that names like Susan, Barbra and Linda were not actually being given to boys, but that some of the Susan etc records are mis-coded as male. You only see it at times when the name was very popular because that's when it generated enough mis-coded records to show up on the charts.
I'd be interested to be proven wrong, but I've yet to hear of a single man with a feminine name from that time period.
I'd be interested to be proven wrong, but I've yet to hear of a single man with a feminine name from that time period.
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It is not my endeavor to "prove you wrong", or anyone else for that matter - but I am a male Barbra. The trend I reference occurred in the US, yet I only know of this through Name Data, which I've only recently thought to review. I also happened to find a post from a lady on "Baby Names Hub" within the last few months under the name Barbara (Negative Comments) who states "When I was a young woman and was in hospital to born my first daughter I met a man with the name Barbara. He was a husband to one of women who lied with me. I neve supposed that my name is unisex before that."
I believe the poster claims to be Polish but living in the UK, so location or country of birth for the Husband named Barbara could potentially be anywhere.
Mistakes will always occur, though occasionally, but will generally be exceptions. I will state that even as a male Barbra, I've never met another male Barbara (at any spelling) or with a name that so emphatically "implies female", though I think 'Linda' and 'Susan' "imply female" more strongly or better than my own.
I believe the poster claims to be Polish but living in the UK, so location or country of birth for the Husband named Barbara could potentially be anywhere.
Mistakes will always occur, though occasionally, but will generally be exceptions. I will state that even as a male Barbra, I've never met another male Barbara (at any spelling) or with a name that so emphatically "implies female", though I think 'Linda' and 'Susan' "imply female" more strongly or better than my own.
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I was named after an aunt who departed before my birth. I did receive some teasing but, really not so much. I love my name. No one forgets me and I feel as though it is definitely more a blessing than a curse, though at times in life I did not always feel this way about it; yet I've never detested it for prolonged periods of time.
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Yeah, I'm sure these things happen, but I'd be interested to hear of any examples other than you.
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I would as well; I hoped that I'd learn experiences from other males with "girl names", which is part of the reason I joined this site: I then learned more from static data that there are quite a few males so named. I would "open up more easily" if other males were posting similarly.
There is another post from another "male Barbara" I think on the page that I referenced the other quotation. t seems the poster is a child - and I do not feel right about taking his words out of the place he intended them: I feel badly enough to have done this with the words I posted from the referenced lady in my former message.
I had more teasing & problems from adult males (Teachers/Instructors) or at least with males that were sometimes significantly older than from school class mates. Most women really seemed to enjoy my name, especially when I was young; however, women of all ages seem to enjoy it once again now that I am into my forties.
There is another post from another "male Barbara" I think on the page that I referenced the other quotation. t seems the poster is a child - and I do not feel right about taking his words out of the place he intended them: I feel badly enough to have done this with the words I posted from the referenced lady in my former message.
I had more teasing & problems from adult males (Teachers/Instructors) or at least with males that were sometimes significantly older than from school class mates. Most women really seemed to enjoy my name, especially when I was young; however, women of all ages seem to enjoy it once again now that I am into my forties.
This message was edited 4/15/2016, 3:42 AM
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