[Opinions] Dolly/Dot
Do you think that Dolly or Dolley is usable? Either on its own or as a nickname for either Dorothy or Dolores? As in using Dorothy or Dolores and deliberately deciding to use Dolly as a nickname. Or is Dolly just too silly these days? What about not Dolly but Doll?
Another question, what do you think of Dot as a nickname for Dorothy? Not Dottie, but Dot.
Another question, what do you think of Dot as a nickname for Dorothy? Not Dottie, but Dot.
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Dolly on its own would be bad IMO. Not unusable. Adolf is unusable... Apple is worse than Dolly.
Dolley makes me think of trolley, and that makes me think of dollies - those racks with wheels for moving stuff... yikes! lol.
I don't like the name Dolly much, but it doesn't bother me IRL. Especially if it's a nick, because nicknames generally only get used by people who accept them voluntarily. Dot for Dorothy is a good enough nickname too.
Doll as a full name would be obnoxious, worse than Moxie.
Dolley makes me think of trolley, and that makes me think of dollies - those racks with wheels for moving stuff... yikes! lol.
I don't like the name Dolly much, but it doesn't bother me IRL. Especially if it's a nick, because nicknames generally only get used by people who accept them voluntarily. Dot for Dorothy is a good enough nickname too.
Doll as a full name would be obnoxious, worse than Moxie.
I think Dolly / Dolley is too cutesy and girly, but also oddly sexualised. Idk I'm messed up. It's also just silly, imo. Doll too. DOLLFACE.
On the other hand, I love Dot. It's cute but has spunk. I also don't mind Dottie, but just Dot is so charming.
My grandmother is Rita Dolores "Dolor" and she'd probably punch anyone who called her Dolly, and she's 88 in October.
On the other hand, I love Dot. It's cute but has spunk. I also don't mind Dottie, but just Dot is so charming.
My grandmother is Rita Dolores "Dolor" and she'd probably punch anyone who called her Dolly, and she's 88 in October.
I think they're a little outmoded -- both Dot and Dolly. Dorothea nn Thea would be much more comfortably these days.
I went to school with a girl named Dorothy,usually called Dot.
My Father had a sister always called Dolly, but her name wasn't Dorothy, it was Dolina. Poor child, she died at age 7, of some childhood disease that's likely preventable now.
I also know an elderly woman always called Dolly, however her name is actually Margaret.
I remember another school-mate, and I shouldn't have forgotten her. She was always called Dolly, and I don't know if that was her actual name or not..probably not. She was murdered , age just turned 14.
I didn't know her well; our classes were big (50 students), and she was a quiet, unobtrusive girl.
My Father had a sister always called Dolly, but her name wasn't Dorothy, it was Dolina. Poor child, she died at age 7, of some childhood disease that's likely preventable now.
I also know an elderly woman always called Dolly, however her name is actually Margaret.
I remember another school-mate, and I shouldn't have forgotten her. She was always called Dolly, and I don't know if that was her actual name or not..probably not. She was murdered , age just turned 14.
I didn't know her well; our classes were big (50 students), and she was a quiet, unobtrusive girl.
This message was edited 6/10/2014, 6:47 PM
While I do think Dolly/Dolley works as a nickname for Dorothy and Dolores (especially Dolores), to me it sounds a bit silly - I immediately think of a toy doll, and that association, for me, is too strong to shake. Same goes for Doll.
As for Dot, I think it's a wonderful nickname for Dorothy - it's cute. I like it. Although I do prefer Dorothea or Dorothy, that's not the subject at hand. I also like Dotty as a nickname, and think it would be darling for a younger Dorothy/Dorothea to go by Dotty and then Dot as she grew older.
As for Dot, I think it's a wonderful nickname for Dorothy - it's cute. I like it. Although I do prefer Dorothea or Dorothy, that's not the subject at hand. I also like Dotty as a nickname, and think it would be darling for a younger Dorothy/Dorothea to go by Dotty and then Dot as she grew older.
I think it is usable, but I think it is best as a nickname. It sounds too cutesy and infantile on its own. Dot is okay too. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Dolly ties in with both the nickname trend and the old-fashioned-name trend here, so I'd say it was definitely usable, and so do the stats - 93 babies were named Dolly here in 2012, putting it in the top 500. Also:
Dorothy - 58
Dottie - 27
Dolores - 12
Dorothea - 12
Dotty - 9
I like Dorothy a lot. And I don't know that I'd use it myself, but there's something cheerful and earthy about Doll that I like - somehow, it sounds friendly and fairly tough and no-nonsense, and not particularly doll-like, if that makes sense. Ditto Dot.
Dorothy - 58
Dottie - 27
Dolores - 12
Dorothea - 12
Dotty - 9
I like Dorothy a lot. And I don't know that I'd use it myself, but there's something cheerful and earthy about Doll that I like - somehow, it sounds friendly and fairly tough and no-nonsense, and not particularly doll-like, if that makes sense. Ditto Dot.
I'm not a fan of Dolly. It seems childish. I prefer Dottie (Dot's okay too, but it makes me think of a dog) as a nickname for Dorothy. I feel like having Dolly or Doll as a full name would make people not take her as seriously. It's a cute pet name if you're close to her regardless of her given name.
Sibset idea: Dolly and Teddy :P
What would you think of names that have the Doll sound, but aren't so toy-like like Dahlia?
Sibset idea: Dolly and Teddy :P
What would you think of names that have the Doll sound, but aren't so toy-like like Dahlia?
I've just been thinking lately about how I think so critically about baby and/or little kids, but not adults. As in I heard about a little baby named Roger and thought "why on earth?" yet my father-in-law is named Roger and I never really thought it was a horrible name.
This is connected...
If I think of a friend naming their baby Dorothy or Dolores and calling her Dolly, I think it's super lame. Doll too. Cheesy and lame. But I know a 30-something named Dolly and I've never really been critical of it. Weird.
Anyway, Dolly is too girly-cheesy-lame for me, but it makes sense as a nickname for Dolores if that's your speed. Dorothy nn Dolly is kinda farfetched for me.
I love love love Dot as a nickname for Dorothy. I had a school bus driver named Dorothy who we all called Dot from Kindergarten through grade 6. She was awesome and I've loved the name and nickname since then.
This is connected...
If I think of a friend naming their baby Dorothy or Dolores and calling her Dolly, I think it's super lame. Doll too. Cheesy and lame. But I know a 30-something named Dolly and I've never really been critical of it. Weird.
Anyway, Dolly is too girly-cheesy-lame for me, but it makes sense as a nickname for Dolores if that's your speed. Dorothy nn Dolly is kinda farfetched for me.
I love love love Dot as a nickname for Dorothy. I had a school bus driver named Dorothy who we all called Dot from Kindergarten through grade 6. She was awesome and I've loved the name and nickname since then.
Because you used the word "farfetched" regarding Dolly as a nickname for Dorothy, I wanted to point out that it has been used as such since the sixteenth century. I know that you may already be aware of that, and you just mean that it doesn't intuitively make sense to you, the way that I've seen people here say that Polly doesn't make sense to them as a nickname for Mary, even though they know that it started out as one. I just thought it was worth mentioning in case there are some who don't know, and thought that Dorothy nn Dolly is something that I came up with.
What I didn't know until just now is that the word "doll" came from the nickname Doll. Probably. This site says it did, without any modifiers, but Merriam-Webster says it "probably" did:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doll
I wonder what dolls were called previously. Maybe poppets?
What I didn't know until just now is that the word "doll" came from the nickname Doll. Probably. This site says it did, without any modifiers, but Merriam-Webster says it "probably" did:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doll
I wonder what dolls were called previously. Maybe poppets?
Ah yes, another one of "those". No, I didn't know that. Nor would I imagine a lot of people my age and younger would. And so whether or not it was originally logical, it would still seem far-fetched to a lot of people. (It was probably me who said that about Polly and Mary too.) My opinion remains unchanged, but thanks for the info.
Ah yes, another one of "those".
What does this mean, precisely?
I don't remember at all who has said that Polly doesn't make sense as a nickname for Mary, but it has been more than one person.
You're welcome. I know that I'm always grateful to learn something about a subject of interest to me.
What does this mean, precisely?
I don't remember at all who has said that Polly doesn't make sense as a nickname for Mary, but it has been more than one person.
You're welcome. I know that I'm always grateful to learn something about a subject of interest to me.
I guess "those" just meant a name with a nickname that has a logical explanation at the time that is was originally used but now doesn't seem very logical to me at all.
Dolly is cute, but I think it's a little bit silly. There's Dolly Parton, and in the time and place where she was born nobody would consider it too nicknamey or too informal. (Her full name is Dolly Rebecca, which is very nice.)
My mother had a friend named Dolores, who was called Dolly. That's the only Dolly I ever knew personally. The only two Doloreses I know, one is called Dee (I believe her middle name starts with a d) and one is just Dolores.
Doll is way siller than Dolly, it's kind of on the same level as Babe or Honey, not really a name, just a thing you might call somebody either because you are close to them or because you can't be bothered to use their real name. Like a lot of old women I have known call just about everybody honey or sweetie, because they can't remember names.
Dot is no good. I know several people who call their periods their dot.
My mother had a friend named Dolores, who was called Dolly. That's the only Dolly I ever knew personally. The only two Doloreses I know, one is called Dee (I believe her middle name starts with a d) and one is just Dolores.
Doll is way siller than Dolly, it's kind of on the same level as Babe or Honey, not really a name, just a thing you might call somebody either because you are close to them or because you can't be bothered to use their real name. Like a lot of old women I have known call just about everybody honey or sweetie, because they can't remember names.
Dot is no good. I know several people who call their periods their dot.
it never occurred to me that old ppl use honey and sweetie because they can't remember names!!!
I don't see why Dolley or Dolly can't be usable, but it might be tougher to pull off than other names. Dolly Parton and Dolley Madison are known namesakes. Doll could be seen as sexist, thinking that they are/ will be just a pretty facade. I think it makes more sense as a nn for Dolores than Dorothy.
Dot works as a nn for Dorothy.
Dot works as a nn for Dorothy.
I can see why people think it's a silly name. But I love it. It's on my PNL. I love it because the christmas I was seven, I got a "Little Monkey Lost" (a cuddly toy) and I named it Dolly. We were inseparable for years (10+ to be honest). So it has a very special place in my heart.
I prefer Dolly as a given name, not as a nickname. If Polly, Holly and Molly works, why wouldn't Dolly?
Dot as a nickname for Dorothy is kinda neat.
I prefer Dolly as a given name, not as a nickname. If Polly, Holly and Molly works, why wouldn't Dolly?
Dot as a nickname for Dorothy is kinda neat.
I do not like Dolly (Doll is just too much). Dolly reminds me of Dolly Parton any way.
On the other hand, Dot is really cute. Dot and Dottie are definitely useable names for me.
On the other hand, Dot is really cute. Dot and Dottie are definitely useable names for me.