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in reply to a message by Schezar
...when little Maddie grows up and wants to be a lawyer, but her name screams three-year-old?
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Well then I guess UK girls are screwed then.
Lots of them have nicknames for first names. Look at some of the more recent popular name charts. Ellies, Mias, Evies, Katies, Rosies, Katies, Mollys and Gracies have been, are and will continue to be popular. Dr or Prof Evie is hardly going to stand out nor is she bound to lament her short name, I don't think.
I don't like most of the above as full names but I can't see it being a complete disservice to the child when a great many of their peers have the exact same thing. Dr Coco-Demi might make me think twice though.
Lots of them have nicknames for first names. Look at some of the more recent popular name charts. Ellies, Mias, Evies, Katies, Rosies, Katies, Mollys and Gracies have been, are and will continue to be popular. Dr or Prof Evie is hardly going to stand out nor is she bound to lament her short name, I don't think.
I don't like most of the above as full names but I can't see it being a complete disservice to the child when a great many of their peers have the exact same thing. Dr Coco-Demi might make me think twice though.
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Exactly!
The name Katie has been high in the charts for the last 30 years so there probably are already doctors called Katie. And if you live in a country where nicknames are popular no one will bat an eyelid. My feeling is that if someone has spent seven years at medical school then they are obviously clever and successful and I would respect their opinion, not judge them for a name their parent has given them. The same would go for a lawyer or someone else in a position of authority.
In any case, how many people actually know their doctor's name? You usually call them Dr (Surname). I see a consultant at the hospital (and have been seeing him for four years) and I don't know his first name. All the consultants/surgeons are known as Mr (Surname).
The name Katie has been high in the charts for the last 30 years so there probably are already doctors called Katie. And if you live in a country where nicknames are popular no one will bat an eyelid. My feeling is that if someone has spent seven years at medical school then they are obviously clever and successful and I would respect their opinion, not judge them for a name their parent has given them. The same would go for a lawyer or someone else in a position of authority.
In any case, how many people actually know their doctor's name? You usually call them Dr (Surname). I see a consultant at the hospital (and have been seeing him for four years) and I don't know his first name. All the consultants/surgeons are known as Mr (Surname).
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I've had this discussion so many times here already
And I'm not going to do it again.
IT"S NOT A BIG DEAL.
If you want to know how I feel about it, read through the backlogs.
And I'm not going to do it again.
IT"S NOT A BIG DEAL.
If you want to know how I feel about it, read through the backlogs.
This message was edited 5/28/2009, 1:36 PM
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I'm not trying to argue...
I was under the impression this was the opinions board.
I was expressing mine.
I'd rather agree to disagree than argue any day.
I was under the impression this was the opinions board.
I was expressing mine.
I'd rather agree to disagree than argue any day.
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If you're tired of it, don't reply.
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Maddie doesn't scream three-year-old
that argument has always bothered me, and I'm not a big fan of nicknames as full-names. Things like Princess would be a problem, but plenty of adults go by their nickname bestowed upon them in childhood anyway. It seems silly to name a child something you're never going to call them, or that you don't like just so that you can use the nickname.
that argument has always bothered me, and I'm not a big fan of nicknames as full-names. Things like Princess would be a problem, but plenty of adults go by their nickname bestowed upon them in childhood anyway. It seems silly to name a child something you're never going to call them, or that you don't like just so that you can use the nickname.
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Yes it does.
Yes, it does.
It also makes me think of the English three year old named Maddie that disappeared a few years ago.
Yes, it does.
It also makes me think of the English three year old named Maddie that disappeared a few years ago.
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My daughter is named Victoria and always called Torrie, and my son is named William and always called Will. I don't think this is silly, and nobody else has ever seemed to think it's silly, either. That's all.
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Personally I think it does sound like the name of a three year old
and if I had the choice between Maddie and Madeline I'd choose to go by Madeline. Sure people are still CALLED by their nicknames, but they can put a full name on official documents and they can introduce themselves with their full names at business meetings. I'd be so embarrassed having to go to a business meeting and introduce myself as Maddie or Abbie, it sounds so unprofessional.
Just my opinion, though.
and if I had the choice between Maddie and Madeline I'd choose to go by Madeline. Sure people are still CALLED by their nicknames, but they can put a full name on official documents and they can introduce themselves with their full names at business meetings. I'd be so embarrassed having to go to a business meeting and introduce myself as Maddie or Abbie, it sounds so unprofessional.
Just my opinion, though.
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Agree and
If I were looking for a doctor or a lawyer (or other such professional) and I see two listings- one for Maddy Jones and one for Madeline (even Madalynn for that matter) Jones, I'd opt for Madeline. Why? It just sounds more professional. Maddy would give me the impression of a younger, less experienced person who hadn't yet learned that her full name (as I would assume she had one) comes off as more grown up.
Sure it's all speculation and assumption just looking at the names, but our names written out for all the world to see sometimes gives the first impression of us. A full name, imo, gives a better impression in certain situations. Having a full name gives options for all stages of life.
While I agree that you should use whatever name you like best, I would be aware that while you like a nn, it may not allow your child to put his or her best foot forward in every situation. Not all nns are created equal though, some sound more formal than others, Lily and Jack, for instance can stand on their own without sounding like a nn.
That's just my take on nns versus full names, based on my experience in which most everyone I've come in contact with who has had a nicknamey name has also had a full name backing it up.
If I were looking for a doctor or a lawyer (or other such professional) and I see two listings- one for Maddy Jones and one for Madeline (even Madalynn for that matter) Jones, I'd opt for Madeline. Why? It just sounds more professional. Maddy would give me the impression of a younger, less experienced person who hadn't yet learned that her full name (as I would assume she had one) comes off as more grown up.
Sure it's all speculation and assumption just looking at the names, but our names written out for all the world to see sometimes gives the first impression of us. A full name, imo, gives a better impression in certain situations. Having a full name gives options for all stages of life.
While I agree that you should use whatever name you like best, I would be aware that while you like a nn, it may not allow your child to put his or her best foot forward in every situation. Not all nns are created equal though, some sound more formal than others, Lily and Jack, for instance can stand on their own without sounding like a nn.
That's just my take on nns versus full names, based on my experience in which most everyone I've come in contact with who has had a nicknamey name has also had a full name backing it up.
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agree as well
Of course if someone told me "you should go to Dr Maddy Jones, she's great", I wouldn't hold her name against her, but I think it's better to have a more formal name in professional situations. I struggle with imagining a 50-yo grey-haired CEO named Maddy. Which doesn't mean that someone named Maddy is doomed to never have a career because of her name, but the name would look awkard in certain situations, the way in which it would be awkward to turn up at a business meeting in tattered jeans.
I think this is a particularly glaring example because it's a nn that sounds particularly childish and that I can 't imagine on someone over 5, as opposed to the likes of Alex, Kate and maybe ever Katie that seem more adult.
What I don't get about wanting a nn as full name at every cost is: what's the big deal, for the parents, to put Madeleine "on the dotted line"? It doesn't stop them to use Maddy.
Of course if someone told me "you should go to Dr Maddy Jones, she's great", I wouldn't hold her name against her, but I think it's better to have a more formal name in professional situations. I struggle with imagining a 50-yo grey-haired CEO named Maddy. Which doesn't mean that someone named Maddy is doomed to never have a career because of her name, but the name would look awkard in certain situations, the way in which it would be awkward to turn up at a business meeting in tattered jeans.
I think this is a particularly glaring example because it's a nn that sounds particularly childish and that I can 't imagine on someone over 5, as opposed to the likes of Alex, Kate and maybe ever Katie that seem more adult.
What I don't get about wanting a nn as full name at every cost is: what's the big deal, for the parents, to put Madeleine "on the dotted line"? It doesn't stop them to use Maddy.
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I agree wholeheartedly.
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I completely agree
I love names :)
I love names :)
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I like to leave the option up the person who has to go by the name...
...go spin circles for me...
...go spin circles for me...
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That's why I don't like it. It limits the person to just the name. Katy can only be Katy, but if she were Katharine, she could be Katy, Kate, Katie, Kathy, Kay, Kat, Kit, Kitty or something else. Alexandra could be Alex, but she could also be Alexa, Lexi or Xandra. That's why I like names like Margaret and Elizabeth. There are many names to choose from and she can pick the one that fits her best.
I would be extremely disappointed if Gia was my full name. Because my name is Giovanna, I can be Giovanna, Giovanella (only to my mom), Gianna (and any other spelling I like ex Giana, Jonna), Gianni (only to my grandfather), Gina (I don't, but I could make it work if I felt like it), Gio and Gia.
I would be extremely disappointed if Gia was my full name. Because my name is Giovanna, I can be Giovanna, Giovanella (only to my mom), Gianna (and any other spelling I like ex Giana, Jonna), Gianni (only to my grandfather), Gina (I don't, but I could make it work if I felt like it), Gio and Gia.
This message was edited 5/29/2009, 6:01 AM
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That's the thing: None of us have options. If it were left up to you, would you have chosen Lindsey for yourself?
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This message was edited 5/28/2009, 1:39 PM
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Well, ....
No, certainly not.
However the idea that my parents could have gone ahead and named me Lindz or Lin (like many of my friends refer to me) just pisses me off.
I'm glad they gave me a full name.
No, certainly not.
However the idea that my parents could have gone ahead and named me Lindz or Lin (like many of my friends refer to me) just pisses me off.
I'm glad they gave me a full name.
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Agreed. Parents can maximize those options.
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=) Exactly, that's all I'm saying...
...smokes your smokes while I keep a watchful eye...
...smokes your smokes while I keep a watchful eye...
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It would be Maddy. But I see your point. I guess she'd just have to tough it out. Or she could legally change it and have Madeline or whatever as her "fancy name" and use Maddy.
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Sorry. I didn't mean to confuse the spellings.
I see what you're saying, but I wouldn't do it personally.
Still, it's your choice.
I see what you're saying, but I wouldn't do it personally.
Still, it's your choice.
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