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Help[Opinions] Nicknames as First names?
How do you feel about naming a child Abbey or Abby as opposed to Abigail nicknamed Abby? It's something my husband and I are considering.
Such as:
Abbey
Lily
Katy
Maddy and
Alex
What do you think?
Such as:
Abbey
Lily
Katy
Maddy and
Alex
What do you think?
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I don't see Abby as just short for Abigail. I really dislike Abigail and the one Abby I know would never introduce herself by her full name...I'm actually not completely sure Abigail is her full name. And if you're honoring, Abbey's great.
Lily is not just short for Lillian. First and foremost it's a flower name. That's like saying Rose is just a nickname to Rosalind, which is also a name not even related to the flower meaning.
Katy and Maddy are too insubstantial alone in my opinion. There are a lot of full names you could choose for Katy. If you want to keep it short and simple (which I think a lot of people don't take into account when they criticise people for using nicknames), use Kate. Kate is traditional, simple, and sweet. With Maddy, you have some very pretty options for full names: Madeleine, Madeline, Madison, and my favorite rarity, Madelieve.
My name is Amy and it's a full name in it's own right, but you'd be surprised how many people think it should be short for Amelia. Doesn't mean it should be. They're totally different names. I guess it would be nice to have Amelia to fall back on, but I think I would have trouble deciding which one to go by because both are socially acceptable. Same with Abby and Abigail to me. I'd actually take someone more seriously named Abby than Abigail personally but that's just because the name reminds me of a comical milk maid. I don't know why.
Lily is not just short for Lillian. First and foremost it's a flower name. That's like saying Rose is just a nickname to Rosalind, which is also a name not even related to the flower meaning.
Katy and Maddy are too insubstantial alone in my opinion. There are a lot of full names you could choose for Katy. If you want to keep it short and simple (which I think a lot of people don't take into account when they criticise people for using nicknames), use Kate. Kate is traditional, simple, and sweet. With Maddy, you have some very pretty options for full names: Madeleine, Madeline, Madison, and my favorite rarity, Madelieve.
My name is Amy and it's a full name in it's own right, but you'd be surprised how many people think it should be short for Amelia. Doesn't mean it should be. They're totally different names. I guess it would be nice to have Amelia to fall back on, but I think I would have trouble deciding which one to go by because both are socially acceptable. Same with Abby and Abigail to me. I'd actually take someone more seriously named Abby than Abigail personally but that's just because the name reminds me of a comical milk maid. I don't know why.
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Lily isn't a nickname.
Lily is a full name.
In general though I dislike nicknames as full names. It seems childish and uneducated.
Lily is a full name.
In general though I dislike nicknames as full names. It seems childish and uneducated.
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Thank you!
I mentioned it earlier.
That goes for Daisy also. It's all well and good to find it juvenile or not viable past 5 years but it's still a full botanical name.
I mentioned it earlier.
That goes for Daisy also. It's all well and good to find it juvenile or not viable past 5 years but it's still a full botanical name.
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Coming late to this, but I highly dislike this practice. It drives me nuts. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I think that a child deserves a full, formal name, and one can use the nickname in day-to-day life. I don't see any reason not to do this. I don't see any reason not to use Katherine and call her Katie or use Abigail and call her Abby or use Andrew and call him Drew. It gives the child more options later in life. Both of my children have full, formal names on their birth certificates and both go by nicknames, and both think this arrangement is definitely best.
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Abbey doesn't bother me, it's my cousin's name so I'm used to it as a full name.
It really depends on the name for me. I would never use Ellie or Katy / Katie as full names, yet Nora and Kate are perfectly acceptable to me. Maybe it's the ee endings, though that doesn't make sense with Abbey. I'll just say with Abbey it's because I've grown up with a cousin my age named Abbey and her name has grown with her. However, Timmy is not a grown up name. I have two uncles named Timothy. One was Timmy for the longest time but once he was in his twenties he wanted to be Tim or Timothy. My other uncle is still Timmy and it just seems very babyish for a grown man to be called Timmy all the time.
I like when parents give their child a more formal name with different NN options. I love Eleanor and Katharine which have a plethora of NNs. That way the child can grow up to kind of pick their own or allow a NN to evolve. Then again, I still love Nora and Kate so I feel like I'm contradicting myself, lol.
It really depends on the name for me. I would never use Ellie or Katy / Katie as full names, yet Nora and Kate are perfectly acceptable to me. Maybe it's the ee endings, though that doesn't make sense with Abbey. I'll just say with Abbey it's because I've grown up with a cousin my age named Abbey and her name has grown with her. However, Timmy is not a grown up name. I have two uncles named Timothy. One was Timmy for the longest time but once he was in his twenties he wanted to be Tim or Timothy. My other uncle is still Timmy and it just seems very babyish for a grown man to be called Timmy all the time.
I like when parents give their child a more formal name with different NN options. I love Eleanor and Katharine which have a plethora of NNs. That way the child can grow up to kind of pick their own or allow a NN to evolve. Then again, I still love Nora and Kate so I feel like I'm contradicting myself, lol.
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Generally not a fan
but I don't mind Anya/Anja.
but I don't mind Anya/Anja.
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I don't like
Actually I hate it. It's one of the things that bothers me a lot. I consider a lot of names people think can be full names as nicknames also.
Actually I hate it. It's one of the things that bothers me a lot. I consider a lot of names people think can be full names as nicknames also.
This message was edited 5/28/2009, 3:48 PM
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Depends on the nickname. Kitty versus Kate etc..
Some work well and feel "mature" enough without need for a full name that may never get used in the person's lifetime and some are cloying and silly as first names. It's also a matter of familiarity too. Some have been very popular as full names for long periods.
I think there are worse naming irks. Katie is always going to be better than MacSplaydyn or Kennahdee. Period.
Some work well and feel "mature" enough without need for a full name that may never get used in the person's lifetime and some are cloying and silly as first names. It's also a matter of familiarity too. Some have been very popular as full names for long periods.
I think there are worse naming irks. Katie is always going to be better than MacSplaydyn or Kennahdee. Period.
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I think some work better than others. Abbey/Abby seems the least "cute." Lily is a name in its own right. Out of what you have listed, I like Lily the best, and then Abbey. The only one I really dislike is Alex, and that's because it seems very boyish to me.
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I'm not a fan. I've got a name which is technically a nickname/pet name but has been used as a full name for a while now (and is currently more popular than the name it's derived from), and I've always been annoyed that my parents didn't give me the more formal version. I personally feel like my name is really childish. I'm sure most people don't see it that way (it's pretty popular for my age group) but I see it that way and it bothers me.
I think having more options is better. A nickname as a full name is pretty limiting, IMO.
I think having more options is better. A nickname as a full name is pretty limiting, IMO.
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If you don't like the full name it goes with then go for it. I'd be a hypocrite if I said otherwise, what with Nell being one of my favorite names. ;)
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Being that I love Betty and NOT Elizabeth, go for it!
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I dislike it
I think that there should be a complete name to fall back on. It looks more professional and gives the child the option of the nickname, the full name, or maybe a different nickname to use in the future.
Plus there are many nicknames which can't be tied to just one name and therefore can't be pinpointed to one meaning. Like Maddy, off your list. Would you take the meaning of Madeline? Matilda? Maude? Madison? Something else? A name like Alex is pretty straightforward at least. And since Abbey is a word in itself, you could just claim its meaning is after the word and not the name Abigail. Plus some nicknames won't age well. Like I think an adult Charlie would be a bit silly.
Furthermore, it will often be assumed their name is a nickname. If your name is Jim, people are all going to assume it's short for James, and you'll always have to correct them. It would be annoying, I'm sure.
Anyway, that's just my opinion. You could be doing much worse in naming your child than just giving them a nickname for a full name. At least it's spelled right!
I think that there should be a complete name to fall back on. It looks more professional and gives the child the option of the nickname, the full name, or maybe a different nickname to use in the future.
Plus there are many nicknames which can't be tied to just one name and therefore can't be pinpointed to one meaning. Like Maddy, off your list. Would you take the meaning of Madeline? Matilda? Maude? Madison? Something else? A name like Alex is pretty straightforward at least. And since Abbey is a word in itself, you could just claim its meaning is after the word and not the name Abigail. Plus some nicknames won't age well. Like I think an adult Charlie would be a bit silly.
Furthermore, it will often be assumed their name is a nickname. If your name is Jim, people are all going to assume it's short for James, and you'll always have to correct them. It would be annoying, I'm sure.
Anyway, that's just my opinion. You could be doing much worse in naming your child than just giving them a nickname for a full name. At least it's spelled right!
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It will often be assumed their name is a nickname. If your name is Jim, people are all going to assume it's short for James, and you'll always have to correct them.
That's interesting because where I'm from it's the exact opposite. If someone is called Jim no one would think it wasn't his full name. People would assume it was his full name and they would probably be very surprised if it turned out that this Jim's full name was James. I guess the full names and their nicknames have been "lost in translation". I'm sure there are many, many that don't realise that names like Jack and Bill were originally nicknames.
That's interesting because where I'm from it's the exact opposite. If someone is called Jim no one would think it wasn't his full name. People would assume it was his full name and they would probably be very surprised if it turned out that this Jim's full name was James. I guess the full names and their nicknames have been "lost in translation". I'm sure there are many, many that don't realise that names like Jack and Bill were originally nicknames.
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"ummm...no"? That's pretty rude.
I'm not just making it up. Do you even know where I'm from? I started the whole post with That's interesting because where I'm from it's the exact opposite
Your reply is pretty narrrow-minded. Jim and James are not seeen as the same name here and most people would not know it's a nickname for James. And then you can say that I'm wrong as many times as you like, it's still the way it is.
I'm not just making it up. Do you even know where I'm from? I started the whole post with That's interesting because where I'm from it's the exact opposite
Your reply is pretty narrrow-minded. Jim and James are not seeen as the same name here and most people would not know it's a nickname for James. And then you can say that I'm wrong as many times as you like, it's still the way it is.
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Where are you from?
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I'm from Sweden.
Maybe it's just me but I usually look at a poster's profile before replying if I know that what we are discussing could be something that varies from country to country (or culture.)
I think it was pretty clear that I'm from a country where nicknames and the original full names are no longer associated with each other and if she then replies by telling me that I'm wrong I think she either didn't really read my reply or just doesn't acknowledge that things could be different elsewhere.
Or maybe I'm overreacting...
Maybe it's just me but I usually look at a poster's profile before replying if I know that what we are discussing could be something that varies from country to country (or culture.)
I think it was pretty clear that I'm from a country where nicknames and the original full names are no longer associated with each other and if she then replies by telling me that I'm wrong I think she either didn't really read my reply or just doesn't acknowledge that things could be different elsewhere.
Or maybe I'm overreacting...
This message was edited 5/29/2009, 7:34 AM
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Okay, so that wasn't the best opening on my part. I apologize.
I do feel that you are overreacting. To say that I am narrow-minded, intolerant and disrespectful other culture just because I think that most people would recognize a nickname is going a bit far. "Where I'm from . . ." doesn't necessarily indicate another culture (You could just be from Wisconsin or something) so I didn't feel the need to check. A simple "That's how it is in Sweden" would have been enough and I would have accepted that.
I do feel that you are overreacting. To say that I am narrow-minded, intolerant and disrespectful other culture just because I think that most people would recognize a nickname is going a bit far. "Where I'm from . . ." doesn't necessarily indicate another culture (You could just be from Wisconsin or something) so I didn't feel the need to check. A simple "That's how it is in Sweden" would have been enough and I would have accepted that.
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It's not another culture, but things do vary from state to state, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin could be totally different in that respect. I know that Upstate New York and the Raleigh area of North Carolina are totally different with names, though I wouldn't say that the culture is different at all.
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I never said you where intolerant or disrespectful of other cultures. But, yeah, I did call you narrow-minded which probably was a bit of an overreaction and not the best way to phrase what I wanted to say.
I owe you an apology. I'm sorry. Truce? :)
I owe you an apology. I'm sorry. Truce? :)
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:)
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I work with a woman named Connie and she complained that people always assume her full name is Constance, which it isn't. That's pretty common where I live.
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Maybe it's just me then :)
I would always assume someone being called Matt is actually named Matthew, etc.
I don't agree with you about Bill because that's such a common nickname and a not so common full name, but I do agree with you about Jack. I had to explain to my husband how Jack comes from John when I told him I like John nn Jack. :)
I would always assume someone being called Matt is actually named Matthew, etc.
I don't agree with you about Bill because that's such a common nickname and a not so common full name, but I do agree with you about Jack. I had to explain to my husband how Jack comes from John when I told him I like John nn Jack. :)
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At least in an English-speaking context, I'd assume too Matt is Matthew and so forth. I'm aware that in some cultures, English nicknames have been "borrowed" as full names. I think this is what CN was referring to.
I once met a Dutch guy named Tommy and it's true it sounds a bit silly to me as a full name. But he was a total jerk, which doesn't help.
I once met a Dutch guy named Tommy and it's true it sounds a bit silly to me as a full name. But he was a total jerk, which doesn't help.
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No I would assume it too
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That's not quite what I was talking about
I was talking more about people being named things like Makayla or Mykynzie. Really misspelled names, not variant spellings of names that have been in use for years and are accepted.
I was talking more about people being named things like Makayla or Mykynzie. Really misspelled names, not variant spellings of names that have been in use for years and are accepted.
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I don't like the habit of using nicknames as full names, I do find it a bit childish or limiting, but of course it's not like the child will be doomed for life because of it. I find Alex is the one that will work best on adult as well, and Lily isn't technically a nickname, though it's one of my least favourite names. I dislike Abbey for the way it sounds. Maddy is inconsistent as well.
This message was edited 5/28/2009, 1:50 PM
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Thanks!
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I'm not a big fan of the practice, but I see nothing wrong with it. I guess growing up in the South not in a rural area but near it I've known a lot of professional men with names like Bobby and Jimmy-Wayne as full names, and I see it as no different on a girl. I really think more parents should do this, because a lot of times they end up using names that they don't like, and most people I've met never switch away from whatever nickname thay went by as a child, so it doesn't make much of a difference to have a full name, except that you'll always have to correct people as to what to call you at the beginning of the year in school if you have a full-name to go with it.
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I agree with you. Where I'm from "nicknames" are used as full names all the time and I don't consider them nicknames. I went to school with Tommy, Jimmy, Lenny among others and no one would think that those names weren't their full names. I just think it's odd to give a child one name and then always call it by another. If you love Maddy use it!
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I think it really depends on the nickname. Personally I find Abby (with any spelling) to be too abbreviated. I also find Maddy to be this way too. Alex is ok for a boy, but I think that the name Alex is still a bit to masculine for it to just be a girl's full name. Katy and Lily are alright. Overall I think that the point of a nickname is to give a child an alternative to a fuller, more formal name that they may choose to use when they are older. Also, remember that for the rest of her life people will try to call her the full form of her name and she will constantly have to be correcting them, or saying "No, it's just Abbey".
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Thanks.
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Personally, while I like plenty of nicknames, I'd only ever use them with full names.
I'd maybe use Lily by itself because of the flower connection, but not the others.
I'd maybe use Lily by itself because of the flower connection, but not the others.
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I think they're all very insubstantial as full first names, except for maybe Lily (even if I'm not a fan). I'd never use a nickname as a full name. If I didn't like a full name I could get the nickname from, I wouldn't use it at all.
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DO IT
and don't listen to anyone else, because they're all going to tell you no. But if it makes you happy, DO IT.
and don't listen to anyone else, because they're all going to tell you no. But if it makes you happy, DO IT.
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But what about...
...when little Maddie grows up and wants to be a lawyer, but her name screams three-year-old?
...when little Maddie grows up and wants to be a lawyer, but her name screams three-year-old?
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Well then I guess UK girls are screwed then.
Lots of them have nicknames for first names. Look at some of the more recent popular name charts. Ellies, Mias, Evies, Katies, Rosies, Katies, Mollys and Gracies have been, are and will continue to be popular. Dr or Prof Evie is hardly going to stand out nor is she bound to lament her short name, I don't think.
I don't like most of the above as full names but I can't see it being a complete disservice to the child when a great many of their peers have the exact same thing. Dr Coco-Demi might make me think twice though.
Lots of them have nicknames for first names. Look at some of the more recent popular name charts. Ellies, Mias, Evies, Katies, Rosies, Katies, Mollys and Gracies have been, are and will continue to be popular. Dr or Prof Evie is hardly going to stand out nor is she bound to lament her short name, I don't think.
I don't like most of the above as full names but I can't see it being a complete disservice to the child when a great many of their peers have the exact same thing. Dr Coco-Demi might make me think twice though.
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Exactly!
The name Katie has been high in the charts for the last 30 years so there probably are already doctors called Katie. And if you live in a country where nicknames are popular no one will bat an eyelid. My feeling is that if someone has spent seven years at medical school then they are obviously clever and successful and I would respect their opinion, not judge them for a name their parent has given them. The same would go for a lawyer or someone else in a position of authority.
In any case, how many people actually know their doctor's name? You usually call them Dr (Surname). I see a consultant at the hospital (and have been seeing him for four years) and I don't know his first name. All the consultants/surgeons are known as Mr (Surname).
The name Katie has been high in the charts for the last 30 years so there probably are already doctors called Katie. And if you live in a country where nicknames are popular no one will bat an eyelid. My feeling is that if someone has spent seven years at medical school then they are obviously clever and successful and I would respect their opinion, not judge them for a name their parent has given them. The same would go for a lawyer or someone else in a position of authority.
In any case, how many people actually know their doctor's name? You usually call them Dr (Surname). I see a consultant at the hospital (and have been seeing him for four years) and I don't know his first name. All the consultants/surgeons are known as Mr (Surname).
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I've had this discussion so many times here already
And I'm not going to do it again.
IT"S NOT A BIG DEAL.
If you want to know how I feel about it, read through the backlogs.
And I'm not going to do it again.
IT"S NOT A BIG DEAL.
If you want to know how I feel about it, read through the backlogs.
This message was edited 5/28/2009, 1:36 PM
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I'm not trying to argue...
I was under the impression this was the opinions board.
I was expressing mine.
I'd rather agree to disagree than argue any day.
I was under the impression this was the opinions board.
I was expressing mine.
I'd rather agree to disagree than argue any day.
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If you're tired of it, don't reply.
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Maddie doesn't scream three-year-old
that argument has always bothered me, and I'm not a big fan of nicknames as full-names. Things like Princess would be a problem, but plenty of adults go by their nickname bestowed upon them in childhood anyway. It seems silly to name a child something you're never going to call them, or that you don't like just so that you can use the nickname.
that argument has always bothered me, and I'm not a big fan of nicknames as full-names. Things like Princess would be a problem, but plenty of adults go by their nickname bestowed upon them in childhood anyway. It seems silly to name a child something you're never going to call them, or that you don't like just so that you can use the nickname.
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Yes it does.
Yes, it does.
It also makes me think of the English three year old named Maddie that disappeared a few years ago.
Yes, it does.
It also makes me think of the English three year old named Maddie that disappeared a few years ago.
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My daughter is named Victoria and always called Torrie, and my son is named William and always called Will. I don't think this is silly, and nobody else has ever seemed to think it's silly, either. That's all.
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Personally I think it does sound like the name of a three year old
and if I had the choice between Maddie and Madeline I'd choose to go by Madeline. Sure people are still CALLED by their nicknames, but they can put a full name on official documents and they can introduce themselves with their full names at business meetings. I'd be so embarrassed having to go to a business meeting and introduce myself as Maddie or Abbie, it sounds so unprofessional.
Just my opinion, though.
and if I had the choice between Maddie and Madeline I'd choose to go by Madeline. Sure people are still CALLED by their nicknames, but they can put a full name on official documents and they can introduce themselves with their full names at business meetings. I'd be so embarrassed having to go to a business meeting and introduce myself as Maddie or Abbie, it sounds so unprofessional.
Just my opinion, though.
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Agree and
If I were looking for a doctor or a lawyer (or other such professional) and I see two listings- one for Maddy Jones and one for Madeline (even Madalynn for that matter) Jones, I'd opt for Madeline. Why? It just sounds more professional. Maddy would give me the impression of a younger, less experienced person who hadn't yet learned that her full name (as I would assume she had one) comes off as more grown up.
Sure it's all speculation and assumption just looking at the names, but our names written out for all the world to see sometimes gives the first impression of us. A full name, imo, gives a better impression in certain situations. Having a full name gives options for all stages of life.
While I agree that you should use whatever name you like best, I would be aware that while you like a nn, it may not allow your child to put his or her best foot forward in every situation. Not all nns are created equal though, some sound more formal than others, Lily and Jack, for instance can stand on their own without sounding like a nn.
That's just my take on nns versus full names, based on my experience in which most everyone I've come in contact with who has had a nicknamey name has also had a full name backing it up.
If I were looking for a doctor or a lawyer (or other such professional) and I see two listings- one for Maddy Jones and one for Madeline (even Madalynn for that matter) Jones, I'd opt for Madeline. Why? It just sounds more professional. Maddy would give me the impression of a younger, less experienced person who hadn't yet learned that her full name (as I would assume she had one) comes off as more grown up.
Sure it's all speculation and assumption just looking at the names, but our names written out for all the world to see sometimes gives the first impression of us. A full name, imo, gives a better impression in certain situations. Having a full name gives options for all stages of life.
While I agree that you should use whatever name you like best, I would be aware that while you like a nn, it may not allow your child to put his or her best foot forward in every situation. Not all nns are created equal though, some sound more formal than others, Lily and Jack, for instance can stand on their own without sounding like a nn.
That's just my take on nns versus full names, based on my experience in which most everyone I've come in contact with who has had a nicknamey name has also had a full name backing it up.
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agree as well
Of course if someone told me "you should go to Dr Maddy Jones, she's great", I wouldn't hold her name against her, but I think it's better to have a more formal name in professional situations. I struggle with imagining a 50-yo grey-haired CEO named Maddy. Which doesn't mean that someone named Maddy is doomed to never have a career because of her name, but the name would look awkard in certain situations, the way in which it would be awkward to turn up at a business meeting in tattered jeans.
I think this is a particularly glaring example because it's a nn that sounds particularly childish and that I can 't imagine on someone over 5, as opposed to the likes of Alex, Kate and maybe ever Katie that seem more adult.
What I don't get about wanting a nn as full name at every cost is: what's the big deal, for the parents, to put Madeleine "on the dotted line"? It doesn't stop them to use Maddy.
Of course if someone told me "you should go to Dr Maddy Jones, she's great", I wouldn't hold her name against her, but I think it's better to have a more formal name in professional situations. I struggle with imagining a 50-yo grey-haired CEO named Maddy. Which doesn't mean that someone named Maddy is doomed to never have a career because of her name, but the name would look awkard in certain situations, the way in which it would be awkward to turn up at a business meeting in tattered jeans.
I think this is a particularly glaring example because it's a nn that sounds particularly childish and that I can 't imagine on someone over 5, as opposed to the likes of Alex, Kate and maybe ever Katie that seem more adult.
What I don't get about wanting a nn as full name at every cost is: what's the big deal, for the parents, to put Madeleine "on the dotted line"? It doesn't stop them to use Maddy.
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I agree wholeheartedly.
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I completely agree
I love names :)
I love names :)
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I like to leave the option up the person who has to go by the name...
...go spin circles for me...
...go spin circles for me...
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That's why I don't like it. It limits the person to just the name. Katy can only be Katy, but if she were Katharine, she could be Katy, Kate, Katie, Kathy, Kay, Kat, Kit, Kitty or something else. Alexandra could be Alex, but she could also be Alexa, Lexi or Xandra. That's why I like names like Margaret and Elizabeth. There are many names to choose from and she can pick the one that fits her best.
I would be extremely disappointed if Gia was my full name. Because my name is Giovanna, I can be Giovanna, Giovanella (only to my mom), Gianna (and any other spelling I like ex Giana, Jonna), Gianni (only to my grandfather), Gina (I don't, but I could make it work if I felt like it), Gio and Gia.
I would be extremely disappointed if Gia was my full name. Because my name is Giovanna, I can be Giovanna, Giovanella (only to my mom), Gianna (and any other spelling I like ex Giana, Jonna), Gianni (only to my grandfather), Gina (I don't, but I could make it work if I felt like it), Gio and Gia.
This message was edited 5/29/2009, 6:01 AM
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That's the thing: None of us have options. If it were left up to you, would you have chosen Lindsey for yourself?
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This message was edited 5/28/2009, 1:39 PM
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Well, ....
No, certainly not.
However the idea that my parents could have gone ahead and named me Lindz or Lin (like many of my friends refer to me) just pisses me off.
I'm glad they gave me a full name.
No, certainly not.
However the idea that my parents could have gone ahead and named me Lindz or Lin (like many of my friends refer to me) just pisses me off.
I'm glad they gave me a full name.
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Agreed. Parents can maximize those options.
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=) Exactly, that's all I'm saying...
...smokes your smokes while I keep a watchful eye...
...smokes your smokes while I keep a watchful eye...
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It would be Maddy. But I see your point. I guess she'd just have to tough it out. Or she could legally change it and have Madeline or whatever as her "fancy name" and use Maddy.
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Sorry. I didn't mean to confuse the spellings.
I see what you're saying, but I wouldn't do it personally.
Still, it's your choice.
I see what you're saying, but I wouldn't do it personally.
Still, it's your choice.
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Oh, we haven't decided, we were just thinking about it. My only thing is that when she's an adult, Lily might be too young.
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Abbey was my husband's sister's name, and she died recently, so we were thinking about doing that for her.
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I don't like it. I'm all for nicknames but I think they should have a name to fall back on.
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Thanks.
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