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Help[Facts] Eoin and Sean both Irish for John?
Hi All,
I'd known that Sean in Irish translated to John in English (sorry, don't know how to add the fada), but Eoin being used for John is new to me. Anyone know how that came about? Maybe the two names were used historically in different regions of the country? Or maybe it's an error?
And Ian is used as John too? Mostly Ian is listed as Scottish Gaelic but there are other sites that list it as Irish Gaelic. It's Scottish then?
Curious, thanks,
Tempestgirl
I'd known that Sean in Irish translated to John in English (sorry, don't know how to add the fada), but Eoin being used for John is new to me. Anyone know how that came about? Maybe the two names were used historically in different regions of the country? Or maybe it's an error?
And Ian is used as John too? Mostly Ian is listed as Scottish Gaelic but there are other sites that list it as Irish Gaelic. It's Scottish then?
Curious, thanks,
Tempestgirl
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Seán (it's ALT 160, btw) :) is from the Norman form of John, Jehan, and Eoin is directly from the Greek form, Ioannes (as is Ioan and possibly Ian).
Ian is the Scottish form.
Similarly, Ean is the Manx form of John, and Ioan, Iefan (Anglicized to Evan), and Ieuan (that's the one my great-great-grandfather used) are Welsh forms.
Ian is the Scottish form.
Similarly, Ean is the Manx form of John, and Ioan, Iefan (Anglicized to Evan), and Ieuan (that's the one my great-great-grandfather used) are Welsh forms.
This message was edited 3/11/2008, 6:38 AM
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Excellent, Penguiny7, thank you! As for the other variations, could you give me the pronounciations? One thing that is discouraging for some of the names is that there are no prn guides, especially when it's a form of another name.
Correct me if I've goofed:
Ean = Ian
Iefan, would you use a "v" in it's original form?
Ieuan = Ewan
Ioannes, I'm not sure.
Thanks for the fada help, but I still must not be doing it correctly. Could you describe how to do it step by step?
Thanks again, :)
Tempestgirl
Correct me if I've goofed:
Ean = Ian
Iefan, would you use a "v" in it's original form?
Ieuan = Ewan
Ioannes, I'm not sure.
Thanks for the fada help, but I still must not be doing it correctly. Could you describe how to do it step by step?
Thanks again, :)
Tempestgirl
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Ean - not sure, but I think it's just EEN
Iefan - an f in Welsh makes a v sound (it's the ff that makes the f sound)
Ieuan - yeah, it's close to Ewan
Ioannes - I don't know about that one, I'm not that familiar with Greek
In case you're not aware, the num pad on your keyboard does shortcuts to pretty much everything. Make sure your num lock is on, and you press and hold Alt while you type some number which corresponds to something. Then let off Alt and it magically appears. It's fun to play around with. For some reason 130 is é, but 160-163 are the rest of the lowercase vowels. The uppercase and some other vowel accents are in the 130s and 140s.
Iefan - an f in Welsh makes a v sound (it's the ff that makes the f sound)
Ieuan - yeah, it's close to Ewan
Ioannes - I don't know about that one, I'm not that familiar with Greek
In case you're not aware, the num pad on your keyboard does shortcuts to pretty much everything. Make sure your num lock is on, and you press and hold Alt while you type some number which corresponds to something. Then let off Alt and it magically appears. It's fun to play around with. For some reason 130 is é, but 160-163 are the rest of the lowercase vowels. The uppercase and some other vowel accents are in the 130s and 140s.
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Hey there Penguiny7,
Thanks for your help, I hadn't known about the keypad shortcuts. I'd been trying with the numbers above the keyboard(and no numlock).
Thanks,
Tempestgirl
Thanks for your help, I hadn't known about the keypad shortcuts. I'd been trying with the numbers above the keyboard(and no numlock).
Thanks,
Tempestgirl
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