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The Warner Family:
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: ??
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
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The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: ??
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
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The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: ??
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
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The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS:
Seamus and Cate have been married for just under a year, and have just discovered that they're having triplets! Both of their families are of Irish heritage -- in fact, Cate and her parents moved to the United States from Ireland when she was only 2 years old -- and they would like to give their children Irish names.
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The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD:
Millie and Meg are adopting their second child, this time a baby girl from China. They want to baby's first name to begin with the letter "M," and her middle name to perhaps relate to her birth country in some way.
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: ??
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
----
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: ??
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
----
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: ??
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
----
The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS:
Seamus and Cate have been married for just under a year, and have just discovered that they're having triplets! Both of their families are of Irish heritage -- in fact, Cate and her parents moved to the United States from Ireland when she was only 2 years old -- and they would like to give their children Irish names.
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The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD:
Millie and Meg are adopting their second child, this time a baby girl from China. They want to baby's first name to begin with the letter "M," and her middle name to perhaps relate to her birth country in some way.
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The Warner Family:
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Ellie Katherine Belle
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
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The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Keenan Howard
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
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The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Harriet Iris "Hattie"
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Ellie Katherine Belle
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
----
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Keenan Howard
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
----
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Harriet Iris "Hattie"
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
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The Warner Family:
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Olivia Grace Madeleine
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
----
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Joel Clancy
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
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The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Iris-Maria
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Olivia Grace Madeleine
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
----
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Joel Clancy
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
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The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Iris-Maria
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
This message was edited 3/30/2007, 1:00 PM
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The Warner Family:
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Olivia Elena Marie (0)
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The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Constantine Clancy Jonas (0)
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The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Isabella Siri (0)
(Siri is Iris backwards)
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The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS: Laoise Bree / Saoirse Neve / Naoise Quinn
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The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD: Morgan Shanxi (Shanxi is a province of China)
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Olivia Elena Marie (0)
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The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Constantine Clancy Jonas (0)
----
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Isabella Siri (0)
(Siri is Iris backwards)
----
The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS: Laoise Bree / Saoirse Neve / Naoise Quinn
----
The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD: Morgan Shanxi (Shanxi is a province of China)
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The Warner Family:
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Erin Katherine Elise
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Dominic Jonathan
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Erica Iris
The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS: Keavy Shea, Tierney Maeve, and Brennan Gallagher
The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD: Madelyn Mei
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Erin Katherine Elise
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Dominic Jonathan
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Erica Iris
The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS: Keavy Shea, Tierney Maeve, and Brennan Gallagher
The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD: Madelyn Mei
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DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Alicia Mae Anne
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
----
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Rowan Fitzgerald
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
----
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Elle Isis
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Alicia Mae Anne
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
----
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Rowan Fitzgerald
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
----
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Elle Isis
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
1
The Warner Family:
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: India Raya Elise
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
----
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Jonah William
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
----
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Sarah Iris
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: India Raya Elise
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
----
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Jonah William
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
----
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Sarah Iris
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
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The Warner Family:
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Olivia Anne Elisabeth
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The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Mason James William
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The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Marie Iris
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The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS: Niamh Aislin / Moira Liadan / Angus Finlay
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The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD: Marissa Lan
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Olivia Anne Elisabeth
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The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Mason James William
----
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Marie Iris
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The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS: Niamh Aislin / Moira Liadan / Angus Finlay
----
The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD: Marissa Lan
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The Warner Family:
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Olive Pheobe Jane
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Hunter Jonathan
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Angela Iris
The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS: Aisling Monat / Bridget Roisin / Conall Brady
The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD: Melody Mei
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Olive Pheobe Jane
The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Hunter Jonathan
The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Angela Iris
The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS: Aisling Monat / Bridget Roisin / Conall Brady
The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD: Melody Mei
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The Warner Family:
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Olivia Charlotte Anne
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The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Asher Jonathan
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The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Alexandra Iris
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The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS: Siobhan Maeve / Caoimhe Maire / Aodhan Liam
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The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD: Miranda Jing
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: Olivia Charlotte Anne
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The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: Asher Jonathan
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The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: Alexandra Iris
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The Lindsay Family:
DH: Seamus Graham (28)
DW: Caitriona Ann, "Cate" (27)
DD/DD/DS: Siobhan Maeve / Caoimhe Maire / Aodhan Liam
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The Saltpeter Family:
DW: Millie Nadine
DW: Margaret Ellis, "Meg"
AS: Mason Colby
AD: Miranda Jing
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The Warner Family:
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: EADAN LUCILLE ROSE(THEARTHURS)
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
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The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: MAKENZIE JOHN-WILLIAM(THEARTHURS)
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
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The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: IRIS ELAINE(THEARTHURS)
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
DH: Abbott Franklin (36)
DW: Marianne Ruth Eloise (27)
DD: Emily Rosalind (7)
DD: Aidan Louise (5)
DD: EADAN LUCILLE ROSE(THEARTHURS)
Although Abbott has two daughters from his first marriage, he and Marianne are expecting their first child together, another girl! They would like her name to "fit" well with those of her older sisters, and to also begin with a vowel. Marianne would also like her to have two middle names, as is the tradition on her side of the family.
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The Potter Family:
DH: Nathaniel Joseph, "Nate" (28)
DW: Lorraine Elisabeth, "Lo" (29)
DS: MAKENZIE JOHN-WILLIAM(THEARTHURS)
Nate and Lo like names that are uncommon, but not weird or too trendy. They had the name Macy picked out for a girl, but it turns out that they are having a boy! For a middle name, they'd like to honor one or both of their fathers -- Howard John and Clancy Fitzwilliam.
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The Schimmel Family:
DDad: Taylor Carson (22)
DD: IRIS ELAINE(THEARTHURS)
Taylor is a single father, just out of university. His girlfriend is no longer in the picture -- she didn't want the baby, but Taylor did. He told her that if she wasn't ready to be a mother, he understood, and he'd be willing to do it completely on his own. He'd like to honor maybe his grandmother, Iris, in some way, but other than that, he likes names that are pretty, but others would probably find a bit plain.
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