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[Facts] Help needed on - Fremi - Old Norse, Glenbourne + Marbella

by Bobby Darin (guest)

4/14/2005, 7:35 AM

Glenbourne Johnson (from Newcastle circa 1700), strange name. This appears to relate to a place, but if you search England and Scotland there appears to be no such place??? does this mean born in a glen?

Marbella - Spanish - what does the 1st element refer to?

#OldNorse

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- Bobby Darin (guest)

4/16/2005, 3:51 PM

Re - Everyone - Thanks!

- Silver (guest) +5

4/14/2005, 10:59 AM

Glenbourne:
If you take the two elements 'glen' gaellic for literally just glen, or a valley, and bourne from the old english beorn, meaning bear
so 'valley bear' or 'bear of the valley' or 'valley of the bears'

Marbella:
Again seperate the element, mar, likely from mary/maria
bella - meaning beautiful
could be a derivative of Mariabella, a constraction of it

- Ylva (guest) +1

4/15/2005, 4:46 PM

Cannot "mar" mean sea too?

- Silver (guest)

4/15/2005, 8:39 PM

No, your thinking mer.

- Chrisell +1

4/15/2005, 5:43 AM

Possible alternative etymology for 'bourne' . . .

I used to live on Glenburn Road, which appears to be related to Glenbourne. In this case, 'burn' is from the Old English born/burn meaning 'stream' or 'fountain'.

:-)

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=burn

♦ Chrisell ♦

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- Silver (guest)

4/15/2005, 8:45 PM

Wow, thats even prettier ^_^
Valley of the stream,
i guess thought it could be 'burnt' valley too, most likely bear (see Osbourne) or stream though, as it says right on that website its a common place name.

- Attn Silver (guest)

4/14/2005, 11:33 AM

Cheers Silver. - Anyone know where Glenbourne is?

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