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ArchivesVergentlin - Andy, are you here? lol
Ok… Even worse than the Baradin question… Beware!
I’ve seen this name *once* only, on a 14th century Jewish French/German woman. Her full name was Vergentlin Hannah. I’ve read somewhere that Vergentlin was the vernacular form of Hannah, but I don’t see how. Since they don’t sound the same at all and don’t have the same initial, it would be by the meaning… But I don’t know what Vergentlin means.
I have a theory, but it is silly. It could be made of “very” and “gentille” (gentile in French), and since in ancient French “gentille” also meant pretty, it could explain the Hannah thing… Especially since names like Gentille and Yentl have been used a lot by Jews during this period…
But… “Very” is English, and I don’t think you can mix languages to explain a name (my mom says you can't)… In French, very = tres, and in German it is sehr. That doesn’t sound like “ver”!!!
Help, I’m becoming crazy! Don’t let me look at my family tree again! Lol
PS: of course I’ve never heard it pronounced (contrary to Baradin that I never saw written LOL), and it doesn’t help me…
I’ve seen this name *once* only, on a 14th century Jewish French/German woman. Her full name was Vergentlin Hannah. I’ve read somewhere that Vergentlin was the vernacular form of Hannah, but I don’t see how. Since they don’t sound the same at all and don’t have the same initial, it would be by the meaning… But I don’t know what Vergentlin means.
I have a theory, but it is silly. It could be made of “very” and “gentille” (gentile in French), and since in ancient French “gentille” also meant pretty, it could explain the Hannah thing… Especially since names like Gentille and Yentl have been used a lot by Jews during this period…
But… “Very” is English, and I don’t think you can mix languages to explain a name (my mom says you can't)… In French, very = tres, and in German it is sehr. That doesn’t sound like “ver”!!!
Help, I’m becoming crazy! Don’t let me look at my family tree again! Lol
PS: of course I’ve never heard it pronounced (contrary to Baradin that I never saw written LOL), and it doesn’t help me…
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You made this one up, admit it! Just to test us!
Now seriously: I haven' got a clue. I can't see any relation between HANNA and … what's this name again? Not by spelling nor by sound nor by meaning (I wish I knew what VERG… whatever means).
Okay, take off the -lin endíng (deminutive), this leaves VERGENT. Virgin? - Take a B for the V and you might end up with BERG (for whatever reason).
Let's try google: 30 entries, mostly genealogical. Wow! Vergentlin Channa Treves (14th century!). Is she the one? Must be, because she is the only one mentioned on these sites.
next entry: "Vergentlin is the vernacular equivalent for the Hebrew name Channa." (http://www.heymannfamily.com/other%20families/Rashi/Whose%20descended%20from%20Rashi.htm) So it is! - Anybody around who can explain this?
Andy ;—)
Now seriously: I haven' got a clue. I can't see any relation between HANNA and … what's this name again? Not by spelling nor by sound nor by meaning (I wish I knew what VERG… whatever means).
Okay, take off the -lin endíng (deminutive), this leaves VERGENT. Virgin? - Take a B for the V and you might end up with BERG (for whatever reason).
Let's try google: 30 entries, mostly genealogical. Wow! Vergentlin Channa Treves (14th century!). Is she the one? Must be, because she is the only one mentioned on these sites.
next entry: "Vergentlin is the vernacular equivalent for the Hebrew name Channa." (http://www.heymannfamily.com/other%20families/Rashi/Whose%20descended%20from%20Rashi.htm) So it is! - Anybody around who can explain this?
Andy ;—)
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lol yeah I made it up! No no, just kidding.
Yes, it's her, Vergentlin Hannah Treves. I must say I was quite surprised one year ago when I saw my family tree on the web, and when I saw our familial traditional information was totally accurate.
Anyway, don't worry about Vergentlin. Maybe the parents made it up totally and would have called her Bree'ttnye today LOL
If someone has an idea I would be glad to read it though!
Yes, it's her, Vergentlin Hannah Treves. I must say I was quite surprised one year ago when I saw my family tree on the web, and when I saw our familial traditional information was totally accurate.
Anyway, don't worry about Vergentlin. Maybe the parents made it up totally and would have called her Bree'ttnye today LOL
If someone has an idea I would be glad to read it though!
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Just kidding, of course you're all welcome to answer!!
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