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Well... Now I see your point... But see my point; I express myself, as best as I can, with a language I'm getting rusty with, which does work in the "behind the surname" forum without getting these answers about my ambiguity... The more I ponder on my proposals the more hard they seem to get for understanding... So I will try just giving the facts I'm relying upon and I will let the logical linking for you, then I will expect your answer, be it a "that's a good possibily [+/- but...]" or a "it's not pertinent because...". It's just that I find disagreeable something like "it's nonsense" when I do know that "I have assembled facts and knowledge [which may be both uncertain and debatable]" that I've earned over the years of being a lover of etymology (and mythology, and literature, and etc.)... Now do you udnerstand me? My problem is not being told I'm wrong, it's the way I'm told I'm wrong... That's all... Now... Both must give our own effort... Ok?