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in reply to a message by Bethoven (not Beethoven)
I'm convinced that this must be the family name of the famous composer, written as it would be written in Spanish, as Daividh already remarked, used as a given name in the Philippines.
The word does'nt sound at all like a word in Tagalog or Cebuano (that sounds like said family name just by coincidence.) A Chinese word/name similar just by chance seems even more improbable.
If you look at the long list of names of people from the Philippines at
http://www.manilatimes.net/others/results/sec1004.txt
that also features a Bethoven you see that there are quite a number of other entries that would probably surprise people in other countries somewhat as well: given names like Cinderella, Jamaica, Maria Theresa, Divino, Napoleon, Nueva Era, Gandhi, Arcangel, etc.
There is room for a Bethoven for sure.
So what does the family name van Beethoven mean? It seems to have Dutch roots:
http://www.lvbeethoven.com/Bio/BiographyFamily.html
"Beeth means 'beetroot' and Hoven is the plural of 'Hof', meaning 'farm'. Beethoven is therefore 'beetroot farms'."
Rene www.AboutNames.ch
The word does'nt sound at all like a word in Tagalog or Cebuano (that sounds like said family name just by coincidence.) A Chinese word/name similar just by chance seems even more improbable.
If you look at the long list of names of people from the Philippines at
http://www.manilatimes.net/others/results/sec1004.txt
that also features a Bethoven you see that there are quite a number of other entries that would probably surprise people in other countries somewhat as well: given names like Cinderella, Jamaica, Maria Theresa, Divino, Napoleon, Nueva Era, Gandhi, Arcangel, etc.
There is room for a Bethoven for sure.
So what does the family name van Beethoven mean? It seems to have Dutch roots:
http://www.lvbeethoven.com/Bio/BiographyFamily.html
"Beeth means 'beetroot' and Hoven is the plural of 'Hof', meaning 'farm'. Beethoven is therefore 'beetroot farms'."
Rene www.AboutNames.ch
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In Spanish, the composer's surname is Beethoven.
In case of an adaptation to Spanish spelling, it would be written Beetoven or Betoven, because the TH is inexistent (EE exists: reedición, e.g.).
If you google "Bethoven", from 43.600 websites, only 5.250 are in Spanish and 17.500 are in English
Lumia
http://onomastica.mailcatala.com
In case of an adaptation to Spanish spelling, it would be written Beetoven or Betoven, because the TH is inexistent (EE exists: reedición, e.g.).
If you google "Bethoven", from 43.600 websites, only 5.250 are in Spanish and 17.500 are in English
Lumia
http://onomastica.mailcatala.com
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Well, I think you have got a point: Bethoven seems to be a misspelling, and one that probably isn't tied to a particular language like e.g. Spanish.
But anyway, Bethoven as spelling is just waiting to happen because one does not hear the double-e. Now, if enough people in the Philippines say "Hey! This famous composer is great and has a nice name; I name my child like him" and just write down what they hear - presto, Bethoven as a given name.
Rene www.AboutNames.ch
But anyway, Bethoven as spelling is just waiting to happen because one does not hear the double-e. Now, if enough people in the Philippines say "Hey! This famous composer is great and has a nice name; I name my child like him" and just write down what they hear - presto, Bethoven as a given name.
Rene www.AboutNames.ch
This message was edited 7/17/2005, 8:22 AM
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Thanks for this information
I'm struggling finding the meaning of my name and it turns out that it's just a misspelling
I'm struggling finding the meaning of my name and it turns out that it's just a misspelling
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