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ArchivesRe: Cylla - Welsh?, Whitecast - unknown and Enna - Old English
in reply to a message by Mark C.
The Welsh word 'cylla' means "stomach" and this is the only etymology I can find on it. A bit weird though :/
Enna/Henn apparently means "water hen".
RE Whitecast - do you mean Whitecast as in the Whitecast Marshes, if so I'm pretty sure the first element means simply "white" from the OE 'hwit' but the second element, I am uncertain of - it may be from the OE cæster meaning "Roman fort" or ceastel "heap of stones".
In the area around Whitecast there is a Roman fort (Burgh Castle) and also a later castle built in the 15th Century (Caister Castle). Of course, if you don't mean the Whitecast Marshes then this is probably of no use. :)
Enna/Henn apparently means "water hen".
RE Whitecast - do you mean Whitecast as in the Whitecast Marshes, if so I'm pretty sure the first element means simply "white" from the OE 'hwit' but the second element, I am uncertain of - it may be from the OE cæster meaning "Roman fort" or ceastel "heap of stones".
In the area around Whitecast there is a Roman fort (Burgh Castle) and also a later castle built in the 15th Century (Caister Castle). Of course, if you don't mean the Whitecast Marshes then this is probably of no use. :)
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Attn:- Kynaston - re White Cast
Thanks once again for your help, you have helped more than you can imagine.
Now, you said "in the area around Whitecast" where exactly is this?, i know where Burgh Castle is located, but on the map i have there is no defined area known as Whitecast?, there is however at the near by Oulton Broad (perhaps 10 miles away), near Lowestoft, a whitecast marsh, but is no evidence of Roman occupation there. If possible can you define where Whitecast marsh is? You don't think that this is cast as in race? What might white refer to? i'm puzzled
Thanks once again for your help, you have helped more than you can imagine.
Now, you said "in the area around Whitecast" where exactly is this?, i know where Burgh Castle is located, but on the map i have there is no defined area known as Whitecast?, there is however at the near by Oulton Broad (perhaps 10 miles away), near Lowestoft, a whitecast marsh, but is no evidence of Roman occupation there. If possible can you define where Whitecast marsh is? You don't think that this is cast as in race? What might white refer to? i'm puzzled
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"Cast" doesn't mean "race". The word you're thinking of is "caste", which has a very different and far more recent etymology (too recent to be an English place name).
Have a look at:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cast
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=caste
From what Kynaston said, I think that he/she's saying that Burgh Castle was originally a Roman castle. The Whitecast marshes are nearby, as you discovered.
♦ Chrisell ♦
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
Have a look at:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cast
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=caste
From what Kynaston said, I think that he/she's saying that Burgh Castle was originally a Roman castle. The Whitecast marshes are nearby, as you discovered.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
This message was edited 4/14/2005, 6:54 AM
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Chisell is right, and the word 'caste' doesn't deal specifically with race.
Cast means only, a cast in a play.
Caste is the word used to decribe the different levels of people within the Hindu religion. Caste even comes from a Brahman, or early Hindu term. This idea of caste wasn't introduced to the Brittans until their knowledge of the levels within Hinduism...
now if i had my essay which i accidently deleted... i could tell you where the word caste came from, lol.
Cast means only, a cast in a play.
Caste is the word used to decribe the different levels of people within the Hindu religion. Caste even comes from a Brahman, or early Hindu term. This idea of caste wasn't introduced to the Brittans until their knowledge of the levels within Hinduism...
now if i had my essay which i accidently deleted... i could tell you where the word caste came from, lol.
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Check the link I provided - caste is from the Portuguese, who applied it to the class system they encountered in their first contacts with the Indians.
:-)
♦ Chrisell ♦
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
:-)
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
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you forgot the link
Oh man, the word I was thinking of is varna
Varna is the Indian word,
caste is a European term, as chrisell said
but i wanna see that link, where did they get the word caste from
might be helpful in our demasking of whitecast
Oh man, the word I was thinking of is varna
Varna is the Indian word,
caste is a European term, as chrisell said
but i wanna see that link, where did they get the word caste from
might be helpful in our demasking of whitecast
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Lol - it was in the post before the one you replied to. But nevermind, here it is again:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=caste
:-)
♦ Chrisell ♦
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=caste
:-)
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
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doh! lol thx!!
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